[News] Flames assign 7 players to the Heat

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern

I think it's coming from a desire to explain why he's on the team but not playing much

Sounds like he has a minor injury (noted in one of the other threads)

[PugnaciousIntern]

Originally Posted by Wild GM

Sounds like he has a minor injury (noted in one of the other threads)

Yes I just updated my post, thank you, and I'm ?glad that it's a lower body tweak. I was really looking forward to seeing him this preseason, hope he gets into the next game or two

[442scotty]

I’m hoping he makes the move to the bigs. He might get a shot at the 13 position or even 12. I don’t think they want him going back to Stockton IMHO unless he totally craps out. Treliving is going to do his best to keep him around. Poirier just has to do his part

[dying4acup]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

I’m hoping he makes the move to the bigs. He might get a shot at the 13 position or even 12. I don’t think they want him going back to Stockton IMHO unless he totally craps out. Treliving is going to do his best to keep him around. Poirier just has to do his part

Also partially sounds like the Flames are trying to get him through waivers with minimal risk. Probably shouldn't be in Calgary at the moment, and still needs to show.

A year from now he is fair game. But it would be a shame to lose such a good asset that they have invested so much into.

I think a team like Vegas could keep him on the roster with a waiver claim, but it might not be what's best for the player and his development, and his career.

[Finger Cookin]

CapFriendly started tracking waivers in May of 2016. Since that time, players have been placed on waivers 377 times, and players have been placed on unconditional waivers for purpose of release an additional 35 times. Of those 412 placements, a player has been claimed 30 times. A waiver placement has resulted in a claim about 7.3% of the time.

17 teams have claimed a player on waivers since May of 2016

Toronto Maple Leafs	5
Carolina Hurricanes	3
Nashville Predators	3
New Jersey Devils	3
Arizona Coyotes	        2
Colorado Avalanche	2
Vancouver Canucks	2
Anaheim Ducks	        1
Buffalo Sabres	        1
Columbus Blue Jackets	1
Detroit Red Wings	1
Florida Panthers	1
Minnesota Wild	        1
New York Rangers	1
Pittsburgh Penguins	1
St. Louis Blues	        1
Tampa Bay Lightning	1

[Superfraggle]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

CapFriendly started tracking waivers in May of 2016. Since that time, players have been placed on waivers 377 times, and players have been placed on unconditional waivers for purpose of release an additional 35 times. Of those 412 placements, a player has been claimed 30 times. A waiver placement has resulted in a claim about 7.3% of the time.

17 teams have claimed a player on waivers since May of 2016

Toronto Maple Leafs	5
Carolina Hurricanes	3
Nashville Predators	3
New Jersey Devils	3
Arizona Coyotes	        2
Colorado Avalanche	2
Vancouver Canucks	2
Anaheim Ducks	        1
Buffalo Sabres	        1
Columbus Blue Jackets	1
Detroit Red Wings	1
Florida Panthers	1
Minnesota Wild	        1
New York Rangers	1
Pittsburgh Penguins	1
St. Louis Blues	        1
Tampa Bay Lightning	1

How many of those were mid-season? My impression has been that a player is much more likely to be picked up later on than during pre-season.

[Five-hole]

Once again, we have a lot more familiarity with Poirier and have seen some flashes of NHL upside. But every other team is trying to sneak similar guys through to the farm and have no room on the NHL roster for a Poirier.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Five-hole

Once again, we have a lot more familiarity with Poirier and have seen some flashes of NHL upside. But every other team is trying to sneak similar guys through to the farm and have no room on the NHL roster for a Poirier.

Poirier has to show he is better than wingers on the 4th line. Has he made the coaching staff believe he is better than Brouwer or Hamilton or Hathaway? I don't know. I know I'd rather lose Hamilton or Hathaway to waivers than Poirier, but there would have to be a team out there willing to give them a full time spot on their NHL roster for that to happen. I think at this time of year all of those players clear.

[PugnaciousIntern]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

CapFriendly started tracking waivers in May of 2016. Since that time, players have been placed on waivers 377 times, and players have been placed on unconditional waivers for purpose of release an additional 35 times. Of those 412 placements, a player has been claimed 30 times. A waiver placement has resulted in a claim about 7.3% of the time.

17 teams have claimed a player on waivers since May of 2016

Toronto Maple Leafs	5
Carolina Hurricanes	3
Nashville Predators	3
New Jersey Devils	3
Arizona Coyotes	        2
Colorado Avalanche	2
Vancouver Canucks	2
Anaheim Ducks	        1
Buffalo Sabres	        1
Columbus Blue Jackets	1
Detroit Red Wings	1
Florida Panthers	1
Minnesota Wild	        1
New York Rangers	1
Pittsburgh Penguins	1
St. Louis Blues	        1
Tampa Bay Lightning	1

Interesting. Would be curious to see how many training camp / very early season waiver claims were made

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Five-hole

Once again, we have a lot more familiarity with Poirier and have seen some flashes of NHL upside. But every other team is trying to sneak similar guys through to the farm and have no room on the NHL roster for a Poirier.

This is just it. Since we can put a face and name to a player in our eyes it elevates the player. How many times have we seen players put on waivers and the eventual response is "ooh, so and so was a higher pick, Flames should take a flyer on him" and the player ends up going through.

At this time of the year every team is in the same boat as they pair down their rosters. Picking a player up at this time is only going to make them have to send another one of their roster players down.

It is the waiver wire during the season where it starts to get a little difficult as every team is at the roster limit and like we found out with Byron, it is injuries or events that cause teams to look at the wire. It is all about timing.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

No more cuts for today, but maybe tomorrow or Monday

Pat Steinberg
@Fan960Steinberg
Gulutzan says “nagging things” necessitated a smaller roster trim today. Expects to be down to 15 F and 8 D tomorrow or Monday. #Flames

I still don't understand what GG is talking about but I guess more cuts coming today?

[Toonage]

He means various players have bumps & bruises and rather than play them he's keeping a few guys around who would otherwise be cut to fill out practice rosters.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by Superfraggle

How many of those were mid-season? My impression has been that a player is much more likely to be picked up later on than during pre-season.

The way the list was formatted didn't translate well to sort the transactions by date, but I may take a stab at it later today.

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern

Interesting. Would be curious to see how many training camp / very early season waiver claims were made

10/9
Martin Frk Claimed on waivers by Carolina Hurricanes

10/11
Pierre-Alexandre Parenteau Claimed on waivers by New Jersey Devils
Seth Griffith Claimed on waivers by Toronto Maple Leafs
Klas Dahlbeck Claimed on waivers by Carolina Hurricanes
Teemu Pulkkinen Claimed on waivers by Minnesota Wild
Mike Condon Claimed on waivers by Pittsburgh Penguins

10/13
Emerson Etem Claimed on waivers by Anaheim Ducks

10/24
Ben Smith Claimed on waivers by Toronto Maple Leafs

11/1
Martin Frk Claimed on waivers by Detroit Red Wings

11/12
Seth Griffith Claimed on waivers by Florida Panthers



Only from last season as the tracking is still relatively new.

[getbak]

You can see the full transactions list here (as you scroll down, new data loads): https://capfriendly.com/transactions/waivers


All of those players claimed in the early part of the season had at least a half a season of previous NHL experience except for Frk. He only played 2 games for Carolina before being put back on waivers and being reclaimed by Detroit.

[CalgaryFan1988]

I could see MTL claiming Poirier (assuming he's placed on waivers). IIRC they wanted to draft him, but we grabbed him just before them.

[GranteedEV]

Burke also mentioned when he was with the Ducks, they wanted to draft him as well. Considering the Ducks' farm play in our AHL division, they probably have a better scouting report on Poirier than MTL. If anyone's going to claim Poirier, it's them.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by Superfraggle

How many of those were mid-season? My impression has been that a player is much more likely to be picked up later on than during pre-season.

Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern

Interesting. Would be curious to see how many training camp / very early season waiver claims were made

The 16-17 season opened on October 12, 2016. I counted training camp and early season transactions as being from September 30, 2016 (first day of waiver activity) and October 31, 2016 (end of the first calendar month of the season).

225 players were placed on waivers, with 1 player being placed on unconditional waivers. Of those, 216 cleared waivers. So 9 out of 226 players were claimed, which is just a shade under 4%.

So proportionately, fewer claims were made on waived players in training camp/early season.

[herashak]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

I could see MTL claiming Poirier (assuming he's placed on waivers). IIRC they wanted to draft him, but we grabbed him just before them.

They have to make space for hudon, they wouldn't claim a worse player instead.

[Fire]

I think next cuts are:

Goaltenders

32 Jon Gillies *
33 David Rittich *

Defence
61 Brett Kulak
42 Juuso Valimaki

Wotherspoon and Andersson fights it out for #6.
(Bartowski stays as the #7)


Forwards
17 Luke Gazdic
46 Marke Hrivik
45 Morgan Klimchuk
28 Emile Poirier
74 Daniel Pribyl (when healthy)
64 Joseph Cramarossa PTO
59 Dillon Dube
56 Ryan Lomberg
60 Brett Pollock
15 Spencer Foo
49 Hunter Shinkaruk

Glass gets another game.