Arena negotiation discussion. UPD: Flames release their proposal

[djsFlames]

KK is so slimy. But this is a better response than I expected.

[topfiverecords]

What is the point of this press conference King other than to throw sand?

[robaur]

- If we were money-grabbing, we would have left Calgary a long time ago
- There are many better cities than Calgary to make money via Sports

Ken King quotes.

[Gaskal]

"There's a lot of places to make money other than here." (complete with smug smile)

Oh FFS!

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by nik-

None of the above is wrong, and clearly you're entitled to your opinion. The problem is when all of the above exists and you're not up front about it and then continually claim to be right in the middle on this when you're just not and your post history on this shows it.

I may not have all the information, but the information that you present paints a pretty clear picture. If that's not consistent with how you really feel about this topic, maybe take a second look at what you're actually putting down as your stances on this issue.

And this isn't about the men. It's about whether this is a good idea.

Take huge issue with the bolded. I've said dozens of times that both men are the wrong people to be heading this.

The difference comes from the reaction. Say King is an egomaniac and you get nods, say the same about Nenshi and you have to beat people off with a stick questioning your motives or biases.

And this is about men. You hire the wrong "face" for a negotiation you hurt your side and the process badly.

[Cappy]

I can't stand listening to this man.

[Mccree]

Originally Posted by Bane

I see King is still trying to claim the ticket tax as part of "Flames revenue", even though its meant to pay for 1/3 of the building, and is not actual revenue.

I suspect this ticket tax will be added to Revenue (for tax purpose and accounting purposes) and thus is Flames revenue. That fact that it is used to pay for the building does not matter, it is still revenue.

[The Hendog]

This press conference was a bad idea

[sureLoss]

King's smile looks so forced. If feels like he wants to stab whoever he is looking at.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by automaton 3

Does KK think this press conference will actually help matters?

What a mess.

How can anyone on Calgary Puck still be on the Flames side after listening to this crap.
Now the Flames are paying for 120% of this project! it just keeps going up!

[dissentowner]

What I am gathering from this is that the owners want to get a deal done but this ass clown continues to threaten the fan base. KK has to be the most unlikable guy I have ever seen. The way he phrases things is terrible!!! Please for the love of god when this is all said and done the organization needs to turf this guy ASAP.

[LouCypher]

This is a really bizarre press conference.

[greyshep]

Now King is saying the Flames would be paying 120% lol.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Kipper is King

King is being very condescending.

That's his whole shtick. He's not even trying to appeal rationally to people on an even footing. He talks like he's speaking to a bunch of dumb, irrational yokels.

[Backlunds_socks]

lol 120% and claiming the ticket surcharge is their money also.

haha.

[MRCboicgy]

Now he says it's like the Flames are paying 120% of the project.

[robaur]

I'm an accountant, and my mind is blown after hearing Ken King's comments today. He's like a version of Donald Trump. He lives in his own financial reality. The spin he is putting on the contributions is ridiculous.

On top of that, he directly insulted City Council, and he directly insulted the people of Calgary by not once, but twice saying that there are better cities than Calgary available to make more money.

LMAO.

[Locke]

Roundabout reference to the 'Edmonton Deal' and 'thats the only way this is going to work.'

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

That's his whole shtick. He's not even trying to appeal rationally to people on an even footing. He talks like he's speaking to a bunch of dumb, irrational yokels.

This type of verbage is hugely beneficial within the business community he normally deals with.

Straight out of his time at the herald.

[Bane]

Originally Posted by Mccree

I suspect this ticket tax will be added to Revenue (for tax purpose and accounting purposes) and thus is Flames revenue. That fact that it is used to pay for the building does not matter, it is still revenue.

As others have said previously in the thread, unless they cap ticket prices now, and the ticket tax comes out of their existing ticket prices, then its not their revenue from this negotiating perspective. The money is coming from the users.