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Old 08-28-2017, 08:52 PM   #8201
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Only Spector could write an article in August, whining about the refs

What a homeristic loser that clown is
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Yeah, when one thinks about high-end talent they must look no further than Looch & the Tenderness.....
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Yeah, when one thinks about high-end talent they must look no further than Looch & the Tenderness.....
Yup. If that's high end talent, we have a lot more than I give us credit for...
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The refs didn't cause the Oilers to lose the series against Anaheim and Specter sounds like a whiny loser.

The Ducks pretty much pushed the Oilers around and Talbot kept them from being completely embarrassed.

I love the optimism coming from up North, but the team is weaker then last year with the departure of Eberle for an even more horrific Strome, and Sekera on the shelf til Jan.

If there's a team that's going to slide beyond San Jose in the Pacific its the Oilers.
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it is the Conference Final or bust for the Edmonton Oilers.
Bust it is then.
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What does RSN have against the Flames? Why do they have an Oilers fan covering the Flames?

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/2...algary-flames/

His preview of the Flames isn't terrible but he seems more willing to pick at the Flames issues while he spends the Oilers article gushing about them after a season where every single bounce went their way. Does RSN have Leafs guys doing the Senators preview? It's just silly to have an Oilers guy covering the Flames.
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Meh, it's all good. Let the hype train carry the pre-season narrative that it's cup finals or bust.

Will make the general disappointment all the more fun to watch.

Oilers are unstoppable, if they don't make the cup final, heck if they don't win the cup, the season's a bust for oil country
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"Anything less than the third round in 2018 will be viewed a disappointment."

Prepare to be disappointed Coiler Fans!
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Meh, it's all good. Let the hype train carry the pre-season narrative that it's cup finals or bust.

Will make the general disappointment all the more fun to watch.

Oilers are unstoppable, if they don't make the cup final, heck if they don't win the cup, the season's a bust for oil country
I agree that it's going to be fun watching Oilers fans melt down. It's hard to imagine everything going their way in consecutive seasons so if they regress it's going to be very satisfying to watch unfold.
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I wouldn't. That's like rooting for your terrible neighbour's kid to lose his battle with cancer.

No it's not. It's like rooting for your terrible neighbour's kid to end their poisonous relationship with a gold digger. You may not have any affection for the family, but that hoe gotta go because they NO GOOD and the kid is too dumb to see it.

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Even with it being August I can't bring myself to click on a Spector article.
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The refs didn't cause the Oilers to lose the series against Anaheim and Specter sounds like a whiny loser.

The Ducks pretty much pushed the Oilers around and Talbot kept them from being completely embarrassed.
disagree
Oilers had a 2-goal lead in 5 of the 7 games, a 1-goal lead in 6 of the 7 games and Anaheim needed a couple OT wins and Kesler holding onto Talbot's pad for dear-life to squeeze past the Oilers...

I'll take that "embarrassment" over a 4-game sweep to a banged up Ducks squad missing Fowler, Vatanen and Bieksa any day

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I love the optimism coming from up North, but the team is weaker then last year with the departure of Eberle for an even more horrific Strome, and Sekera on the shelf til Jan.

If there's a team that's going to slide beyond San Jose in the Pacific its the Oilers.
so I guess McDavid, Draisaitl, Strome, Caggulia, Larsson, Klefbom, Benning and Nurse won't get better as they gain experience, especially going to the 2nd round of the playoffs?
they've all peaked now?
I think the Oilers are banking on the continued development of the young core that went pretty deep into the playoffs
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disagree
Oilers had a 2-goal lead in 5 of the 7 games, a 1-goal lead in 6 of the 7 games and Anaheim needed a couple OT wins and Kesler holding onto Talbot's pad for dear-life to squeeze past the Oilers...

I'll take that "embarrassment" over a 4-game sweep to a banged up Ducks squad missing Fowler, Vatanen and Bieksa any day



so I guess McDavid, Draisaitl, Strome, Caggulia, Larsson, Klefbom, Benning and Nurse won't get better as they gain experience, especially going to the 2nd round of the playoffs?
they've all peaked now?
I think the Oilers are banking on the continued development of the young core that went pretty deep into the playoffs
Seems like the Oilers are banking on many things this upcoming season.
-Talbot to play above his head again
-Strome to make a drastic jump in his play to make up for the loss of Eberle's points
-Nurse and Benning to become 2nd pairing defensemen
-Drai to progress and carry his own line
-Poolparty to make the leap and be a top 6 winger
-The cap to go up significantly

Am I missing anything Albertaoiler??
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disagree
Oilers had a 2-goal lead in 5 of the 7 games, a 1-goal lead in 6 of the 7 games and Anaheim needed a couple OT wins and Kesler holding onto Talbot's pad for dear-life to squeeze past the Oilers...

I'll take that "embarrassment" over a 4-game sweep to a banged up Ducks squad missing Fowler, Vatanen and Bieksa any day



so I guess McDavid, Draisaitl, Strome, Caggulia, Larsson, Klefbom, Benning and Nurse won't get better as they gain experience, especially going to the 2nd round of the playoffs?
they've all peaked now?
I think the Oilers are banking on the continued development of the young core that went pretty deep into the playoffs

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Is the 2nd round considered "pretty deep" nowadays?
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disagree
Oilers had a 2-goal lead in 5 of the 7 games, a 1-goal lead in 6 of the 7 games and Anaheim needed a couple OT wins and Kesler holding onto Talbot's pad for dear-life to squeeze past the Oilers...

I'll take that "embarrassment" over a 4-game sweep to a banged up Ducks squad missing Fowler, Vatanen and Bieksa any day



so I guess McDavid, Draisaitl, Strome, Caggulia, Larsson, Klefbom, Benning and Nurse won't get better as they gain experience, especially going to the 2nd round of the playoffs?
they've all peaked now?
I think the Oilers are banking on the continued development of the young core that went pretty deep into the playoffs
So you are counting on the following to occur again:

1. McDavid to play 25 minutes a night to carry your team during the regular season;
2. Zero significant injuries;
3. Draisatl to magically learn to put up points away from McDavid, or to maintain his impossible shooting percentage from the playoffs;
4. Someone to magically replace Sekeras minute u til January;
5. Talbot to channel Brodeur again and play 75 elite games covering up a defence that gave up way too many danger area scoring chances;
6. Maroon to triple his average goals again;
7. Strome to suddenly pull it all together and replace Eberles goals;
8. A butter soft schedule.

Seems legit.

The Flames are clearly crazy thinking our significantly improved defence (pre stone last year) and potentially getting decent goaltending will improve our team...and maybe our best two forwards not battling injuries for parts of the year. Man, we are nuts.

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disagree
Oilers had a 2-goal lead in 5 of the 7 games, a 1-goal lead in 6 of the 7 games and Anaheim needed a couple OT wins and Kesler holding onto Talbot's pad for dear-life to squeeze past the Oilers...

I'll take that "embarrassment" over a 4-game sweep to a banged up Ducks squad missing Fowler, Vatanen and Bieksa any day



so I guess McDavid, Draisaitl, Strome, Caggulia, Larsson, Klefbom, Benning and Nurse won't get better as they gain experience, especially going to the 2nd round of the playoffs?
they've all peaked now?
I think the Oilers are banking on the continued development of the young core that went pretty deep into the playoffs
Look, the refs didn't screw the Oilers, progress isn't linear, and the Only thing that there is to be embarrassed about is your overconfidence.
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Oilers had a 2-goal lead in 5 of the 7 games, a 1-goal lead in 6 of the 7 games and Anaheim needed a couple OT wins and Kesler holding onto Talbot's pad for dear-life to squeeze past the Oilers...

I'll take that "embarrassment" over a 4-game sweep to a banged up Ducks squad missing Fowler, Vatanen and Bieksa any day
We're not embarrassed by the 4 game sweep like you think, the Flames played on the level with the Ducks, the goaltending killed us. We were the anti-oilers we couldn't depend on an out of this world goaltending and career years.

go back and watch the series with the Oilers and the Ducks, the end result of the Oilers was pretty much a given, the Ducks were just plain the better team and Talbot held them in.






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so I guess McDavid, Draisaitl, Strome, Caggulia, Larsson, Klefbom, Benning and Nurse won't get better as they gain experience, especially going to the 2nd round of the playoffs?
they've all peaked now?
I think the Oilers are banking on the continued development of the young core that went pretty deep into the playoffs
Development isn't linear unless your a deluded Oilers fan.

Out of that group there will proably be steps back. Strome is god awful terrible anyways and chances are that there are players in that group that have pretty much seen their career heights. But for Oilers, everything is always a upwards progression, which I don't get since your young Superstars like Eberle and RNH stopped developming once they got their contracts.

What your counting on is this.

That the Oilers continue to get an advantages schedule this year that's heavy on teams that are on the back of back to back schedules

That Talbot can continue to play 70 games or more with superstar play nightly while the Oilers continue to give up high danger chances left right and center

That one of your top four defensemen won't be missed because of what? awesome

That you won't have major injuries

That your top line won't step back slightly because of increased attention

That loading up on your top line won't backfire because of lack of depth, and if you have to split your top line that Draisaitl won't struggle on his own like he did last year.

That teams won't play the Oilers differently because of their uber hype and because of McDavid

Right now, the Oilers are a house of cards. Allow me to let Joe Pecsi give you the definition that is applicable to the Oilers.




Thanks Joe

I mean there are some positive factors, Las Vegas joining a division that includes Vancouver and possibly a falling San Jose team, but sweetheart, every team has that benefit.

The bottom line is that if any one of those things above doesn't go right for team house of cards.

They're back in the race for the lottery.

Allow these exceptionally talented major league greens keepers explain

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Oilers had a 2-goal lead in 5 of the 7 games, a 1-goal lead in 6 of the 7 games and Anaheim needed a couple OT wins and Kesler holding onto Talbot's pad for dear-life to squeeze past the Oilers...

I'll take that "embarrassment" over a 4-game sweep to a banged up Ducks squad missing Fowler, Vatanen and Bieksa any day
Naming leads in games? How 1987 of you!

The 7 game Oiler Duck series featured ...

a) Oilers at 43.9% CF%
b) Simple shots for they averaged only 41% through the 7 games
c) 44.6% in scoring chances through the 7 games
d) 45.8% in high danger scoring chances through the 7 games

Those are simple to look up.

The only game in 7 where the Oilers were the more dangerous and effective team was game 3 where you'd have to look at score adjusted since they lost 6-3

Same metrics for the Flames in their 4 game sweep?

a) 51.2% corsi for, with only one game under 50
b) 52.6% of shots for
c) 53.6% of scoring chances for
d) 52.2% of high danger scoring chances for

This isn't hard stuff to look up, I'm not ignoring metrics that don't fit my view. Talbot good. Elliott bad. End of story.
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