08-27-2017, 10:42 PM
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#8141
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kelowna
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Reading the comments in the Blog, beyond the vast over estimation of Oiler players. Draisaitl after one good season riding on McDavid's coat tails is better then Johnny and Mony. The Oilers middle 6 is awesome.
Oh and some dingus in there is proclaiming that the rivalry is over because the Flames are moving to Seattle. Some low class idiot is cheering for an NHL team to leave town.
I really hope that the Oilers sink to a new depth in that shiny new building and it becomes stained with the urine of the angry and disenfranchised.
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Call me low class but I would LOVE if the Oilers moved to Seattle!
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08-28-2017, 10:22 AM
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#8142
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maple Bay, B.C.
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I really hope that the Oilers sink to a new depth in that shiny new building and it becomes stained with the urine of the angry and disenfranchised.
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Well, if they don't upgrade the ladies bathroom facilities at Rogers Place, that well could happen.
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08-28-2017, 10:25 AM
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#8143
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zulu29
Call me low class but I would LOVE if the Oilers moved to Seattle!
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Originally Posted by dash_pinched
Well, if they don't upgrade the ladies bathroom facilities at Rogers Place, that well could happen.
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Would it not be doubly hilarious if they moved now?
"Thanks for the new arena buuuut......Go Seahawks.....yeah, we're still moving to Seattle."
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08-28-2017, 10:45 AM
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#8144
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The C-spot
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Originally Posted by rotten42
I prefer McJezus....in incorporates all the false hope of a deity that the Oiler fans have in him delivering the second coming.
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More like the Holy Ghost against Anaheim amirite?!
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08-28-2017, 11:00 AM
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#8145
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zulu29
Call me low class but I would LOVE if the Oilers moved to Seattle!
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I wouldn't. That's like rooting for your terrible neighbour's kid to lose his battle with cancer.
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08-28-2017, 11:33 AM
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#8146
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
I wouldn't. That's like rooting for your terrible neighbour's kid to lose his battle with cancer.
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NOPE. NOPE. NOPE 
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Originally Posted by HotHotHeat
THIS is why people make fun of Edmonton. When will this stupid city figure it out? They continue to kick their own ass every day, it's impossible not to make fun of them.
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08-28-2017, 11:35 AM
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#8147
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Today's Sportsnet preview is tje Oil.
Can someone please explain this to me - Cam Talbot is now a "Stanley Cup Caliber Goaltender"?
From what I can see, he has had only 1 season with great numbers. His first season with EDM were okay numbers and his time with NYR - great numbers, small sample.
Is this guy suddenly one of the 5 best goalies in the NHL?
What am I missing here?
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08-28-2017, 11:38 AM
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#8148
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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I would put him in the top 10 for sure. He's the main reason the Oilers made the playoffs last season as he's more important than McDavid in regards to winning games night in and night out.
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08-28-2017, 11:50 AM
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#8149
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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IMO Talbot on the Flames = a round one win and probably a second as well. He'd have had a better D and a better backup.
Talbot off of the Oilers (assuming he's replaced by an average goalie) = round one exit and maybe not even a PO spot.
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08-28-2017, 11:54 AM
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#8150
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
IMO Talbot on the Flames = a round one win and probably a second as well. He'd have had a better D and a better backup.
Talbot off of the Oilers (assuming he's replaced by an average goalie) = round one exit and maybe not even a PO spot.
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Flames are headed to the cup with Talbot in net
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08-28-2017, 11:56 AM
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#8151
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Love
Flames are headed to the cup with Talbot in net
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I think that's definitely a possibility.
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08-28-2017, 12:08 PM
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#8152
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Workload is going to be the question around Talbot this year.
Over the last 50 years, the list of goalies who could successfully play 70+ regular season games year after year and still have playoff success has been limited to Martin Brodeur.
The challenge for the Oilers is either hoping Talbot can join Brodeur on that list, or finding a way to reduce his workload by at least 10 games. Is Brossoit ready and capable of taking on that extra workload?
It's a problem Flames fans are way too familiar with. Every summer, the Flames would talk about trying to reduce Kipper's workload, but never could because the backups wouldn't be able to consistently win and the playoff hunt was always too close to risk losing games that needed to be won.
Is this something the Oilers have even identified as an issue, or are they just relying on the fact that they won the Cup one time when Fuhr played 75 games, so everything will just work out fine?
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08-28-2017, 12:24 PM
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#8153
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by getbak
Workload is going to be the question around Talbot this year.
Over the last 50 years, the list of goalies who could successfully play 70+ regular season games year after year and still have playoff success has been limited to Martin Brodeur.
The challenge for the Oilers is either hoping Talbot can join Brodeur on that list, or finding a way to reduce his workload by at least 10 games. Is Brossoit ready and capable of taking on that extra workload?
It's a problem Flames fans are way too familiar with. Every summer, the Flames would talk about trying to reduce Kipper's workload, but never could because the backups wouldn't be able to consistently win and the playoff hunt was always too close to risk losing games that needed to be won.
Is this something the Oilers have even identified as an issue, or are they just relying on the fact that they won the Cup one time when Fuhr played 75 games, so everything will just work out fine?
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Quick won the Cup in 2014 after playing 69 regular season games.
Therefore, Talbot only has to decrease his workload by 4 games to be fresh for the playoffs.
Should be doable.
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08-28-2017, 12:29 PM
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#8154
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Oil Stain
Quick won the Cup in 2014 after playing 69 regular season games.
Therefore, Talbot only has to decrease his workload by 4 games to be fresh for the playoffs.
Should be doable.
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You land a generational player thanks to some ping pong balls and think you're only going to win one cup with a goalie that plays 69 games...
Typical Oilers fan. 
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08-28-2017, 12:41 PM
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#8155
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Locke
You land a generational player thanks to some ping pong balls and think you're only going to win one cup with a goalie that plays 69 games...
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Nah. I'm just making light of the fact that people think 70+ games played for a goalie has relevance to anything. 
Its the same argument that winning the President's Trophy is a curse. A wobbly argument made on small sample sizes and a bucketful of assumptions.
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08-28-2017, 12:44 PM
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#8156
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Oil Stain
Nah. I'm just making light of the fact that people think 70+ games played for a goalie has relevance to anything. |
However, you have to admit that whatever the number or the metric is you cant ride a goalie hard and put him away wet. There has to be balance.
Even Cup-Winning goalies need a break from time to time, and even then their teams need a backup who can go in and break up the play even if it isnt the goalie's fault. It happens.
Goalies get replaced to shake things up if the team isnt playing well, if the alternative is terrible then its a backup plan eliminated from a coach's arsenal.
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08-28-2017, 12:44 PM
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#8157
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
Quick won the Cup in 2014 after playing 69 regular season games.
Therefore, Talbot only has to decrease his workload by 4 games to be fresh for the playoffs.
Should be doable.
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That was 2012. Winning every round in 5 games helped get him rest in the playoffs. He also only played 61 games the prior season and 6 playoff games. That's why I mentioned the part about playing 70+ year after year. Brodeur is the only one who has been able to do that.
In 2014, Quick only played 49 regular season games after the short year in 2013 too.
You can pretend it doesn't exist, but there's ample evidence that heavy workload is cumulative.
Luongo had many unsuccessful seasons playing 70+ games and went to the Final the year he played 60. Kiprusoff had many unsuccessful seasons playing 70+ and went to the Final the year he played 39. Belfour played 70+ in 3 of his first 5 seasons in Chicago. He didn't get out of the first round in those three seasons, and went to the Conference Final and Final in the other 2 seasons.
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08-28-2017, 12:45 PM
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#8158
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Norm!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
Quick won the Cup in 2014 after playing 69 regular season games.
Therefore, Talbot only has to decrease his workload by 4 games to be fresh for the playoffs.
Should be doable.
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Its not about workload when you're doing that comparison. That was a far deeper team then the Oilers are, it was also a defense first team that didn't allow a lot of dangerous chances or rebounds.
That 4 game difference might as well be 40 games.
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08-28-2017, 12:46 PM
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#8159
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
Quick won the Cup in 2014 after playing 69 regular season games.
Therefore, Talbot only has to decrease his workload by 4 games to be fresh for the playoffs.
Should be doable.
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Actually, Quick played only 49 games in 2013-14.
He played 69 in 2011-12. After which played 37 the next (short) year (and then had decent success in the POs). After his last win in 2014, he played 72 and 68 games but only zero and 5 PO games respectively (out of the POs and a first round loss). He then obviously played only 17 games last year and finished out of the POs.
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08-28-2017, 12:48 PM
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#8160
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Oil Stain
Nah. I'm just making light of the fact that people think 70+ games played for a goalie has relevance to anything. |
Given the fact that +70-game goalies have become an extremely rare commodity in the past decade, I would say it is absolutely relevant to the discussion about championships. Of course it is an issue, and until the Oilers manage to scale back Talbot's workload they are not getting much further than a second playoff round.
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