08-12-2017, 03:19 PM
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#81
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Quote:
Originally Posted by New Era
Most Americans do not condone, nor support, groups like this and would act against them given the chance.
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Except when someone punches a Nazi it's apparently a bad thing and we should totally sit down to have a nice rational discourse.
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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08-12-2017, 03:19 PM
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#82
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
This is part of a stochastic terror campaign coming from 'conservative' interests in the US. The GOP has been using this bottled hatred for decades.
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And blowback is a bitch. 
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08-12-2017, 03:35 PM
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#83
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wittyusertitle
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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I never expected to see anything like this in my lifetime, in my country, in a city close to where my grandmother grew up.
I don't even have words, I'm too angry and sad. I'm just beside myself. I've already had a hard time keeping myself quiet with the Trump supporters I work with, this may be the last straw.
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08-12-2017, 03:45 PM
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#84
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maple Bay, B.C.
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Glenn Thrush ✔ @GlennThrush
It is neither unfair nor inaccurate to point out that the president has been tougher on Mitch McConnell than Putin or Nazis in last 24 hours
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08-12-2017, 03:48 PM
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#85
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
Except when someone punches a Nazi it's apparently a bad thing and we should totally sit down to have a nice rational discourse.
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Which is a reference to Richard Spencer, of course, who you just yesterday lumped in with people like Gad Saad and Joe Rogan. So, when people like you get to decide who should get classified as "Nazis" and therefore should be susceptible to punching, yeah, that's a bit of a problem.
Not to mention that even if you were capable of identifying the real Nazis (hint: in this instance, they're the guys with the swastika flags carrying torches wearing shirts with Hitler quotes on them, not the people who simply don't agree with you on public policy), said actual Nazis are probably going to punch back, and my mental image of you doesn't give me the impression you're up for that sort of fight.
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08-12-2017, 04:02 PM
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#86
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: On your last nerve...:D
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
^ My god.....
Ok, so someone tell me again how muslim immigrants pose a bigger risk to Americans than white nationalists (who are all citizens BTW)? Explain it to me like I'm a 5 year old.
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They brown folk.
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08-12-2017, 04:17 PM
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#87
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Which is a reference to Richard Spencer, of course, who you just yesterday lumped in with people like Gad Saad and Joe Rogan. So, when people like you get to decide who should get classified as "Nazis" and therefore should be susceptible to punching, yeah, that's a bit of a problem.
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Is it? I'm not certain there even is anything approaching a degree of separation between Richard Spencer and literal Nazis.
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08-12-2017, 04:21 PM
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#88
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David Duke: "We're going to fulfil the promises of Donald Trump". And yes, there is video.
https://twitter.com/jowrotethis/stat...92449760698368
Incidentally, I have yet to see any video of Donald Trump suggesting that he has any problem with any of this.
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Is it? I'm not certain there even is anything approaching a degree of separation between Richard Spencer and literal Nazis.
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There is, however, a degree of separation between Richard Spencer and Gad Saad, which is my point. I do not trust anyone to decide who falls into the category of "people who have ideas that are so objectionable that it's acceptable to inflict violence upon them simply for holding them". And I really, really don't trust Psycnet to decide that.
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08-12-2017, 04:24 PM
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#89
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
David Duke: "We're going to fulfil the promises of Donald Trump". And yes, there is video.
https://twitter.com/jowrotethis/stat...92449760698368
Incidentally, I have yet to see any video of Donald Trump suggesting that he has any problem with any of this.
There is, however, a degree of separation between Richard Spencer and Gad Saad, which is my point. I do not trust anyone to decide who falls into the category of "has ideas that we should dislike enough to be willing to inflict violence upon them". And I really, really don't trust Psycnet to decide that. |
He gave a press conference about 2 hours ago.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/politi...sts/index.html
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08-12-2017, 04:28 PM
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#90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
He gave a press conference about 2 hours ago.
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Saw that. Missed the part where he talked about white nationalism, nazism, the KKK, or suggested that he didn't want the support of these people. I did catch him repeating, "from all sides", as if counter-protests against racism were somehow equivalent, a sentiment echoed in the article you linked by a quote from a white house staffer.
Or, in other words,
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David Frum
@davidfrum
President Trump is always an effective communicator, but rarely has he more clearly communicated who and what he is than he did today.
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I do, incidentally, recall during the campaign when he waffled about the endorsement about a white supremacist leader... who was that again?
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08-12-2017, 04:30 PM
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#91
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Coquitlam, BC
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^David Duke
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08-12-2017, 04:31 PM
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#92
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Yeah. The guy who just gleefully pointed to a racist rally as a fulfilment of Trump's promises. It was a rhetorical question.
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08-12-2017, 05:17 PM
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#93
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Alt Right DoxxPros are saying the car belongs to a hardline Bernie Bro
https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/...72030375227392
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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08-12-2017, 05:19 PM
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#94
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It's easier to convincingly photoshop that information than to actually obtain that information, so, yeah, I'll wait for an actual credible source on that one.
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08-12-2017, 05:20 PM
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#95
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Definitely worth waiting to see who the cops charge. Kid is gonna be tarred if it's a fake.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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08-12-2017, 05:25 PM
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#96
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
Alt Right DoxxPros are saying the car belongs to a hardline Bernie Bro
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Linking to the (alleged) doxxing of somebody is something that I didn't think even you would stoop down to.
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08-12-2017, 05:26 PM
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#97
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
Definitely worth waiting to see who the cops charge. Kid is gonna be tarred if it's a fake.
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I know it's not much of a source but someone on Reddit is saying that the kid identified is denying it on twitter.
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08-12-2017, 05:30 PM
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#98
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Apparently this is from the Daily Stormer. I'm not about to verify that. I got it from Twitter.
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08-12-2017, 05:45 PM
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#99
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
I know it's not much of a source but someone on Reddit is saying that the kid identified is denying it on twitter.
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https://m.facebook.com/joel.notavail...content_filter
His FB is denying it too.
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08-12-2017, 05:46 PM
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#100
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Trump won't condemn the white nationalists because those are his supporters and he doesn't want to alienate them. And it's not just the white nationalists in Charlottesville, it's all over the country. If he condemns them and he's basically condemning his entire voter base.
I mean think about that for second, the president of the United States of America won't condemn Nazis in his own ####ing country because he doesn't want to alienate his supporters.
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