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Old 07-12-2017, 03:28 PM   #6221
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Don't worry, there's also this to balance it out:

Committee files to draft Dwayne Johnson for president
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dwayne-j...iles-with-fec/
To be fair I think Johnson calling Trump a jabroni in the middle of a debate and to shut up and know his role would be highly amusing.
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This could be the biggest story of them all.
Yah, it seems to be really unwinding. It doesn't take much of a leap in faith to believe the Trump's were very involved in that money laundering scheme. I think this is going to all break open soon. Living it is entertaining enough, but I'm already looking forward to the movie!!!
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Old 07-12-2017, 03:46 PM   #6223
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Committee files to draft Dwayne Johnson for president
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dwayne-j...iles-with-fec/
Johnson is a Republican.
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Old 07-12-2017, 03:58 PM   #6224
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Yes. As a matter of fact this does scare me.
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:33 PM   #6227
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That "Buy Now" button under his shirts/hats/etc links back to Warner Music. So what are the odds this is a publicity stunt for a new album?
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:47 PM   #6229
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LOL i mean, why not?

If trump can win, anyone can... the Cult of Celebrity is strong in the states...
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Old 07-12-2017, 06:37 PM   #6230
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Yah, it seems to be really unwinding. It doesn't take much of a leap in faith to believe the Trump's were very involved in that money laundering scheme. I think this is going to all break open soon. Living it is entertaining enough, but I'm already looking forward to the movie!!!


This is playing out an awful lot closer to how season 3 of Fargo did than I think the writers were expecting.
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Paul Ryan is laughing his ass off (clip is in the tweet)

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Old 07-13-2017, 07:50 AM   #6232
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That's what Ryan is waiting for. He needs to get Pence and Teump impeached at the same time.
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Senate unveils the next incarnation of the Health bill. It may include the Cruz amendment which seems to solidify:

1) an expensive/non-existent lane for sick people and pre-existing conditions
2) a "normal" lane for people with steady jobs and benefits
3) a cheap but useless health policy lanes for those that feel they don't really need healthcare
4) the existing lane for people who can't afford anything

At some point a good chunk of the people in the third lane become people in the first lane or the fourth lane.

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Old 07-13-2017, 11:01 AM   #6234
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any death panels?
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Won't be any need for them as in the end most won't be able to afford insurance. It's amazing to me that the GOP continues to trot out ideas that basically have no support from any camp. Not the citizens, not the medical professionals and not the insurers.

The amendments Graham is working on is just going to push everything to the state level which is another thing the GOP is hell bent on doing...creating even more of discrepancy between the have and have not states.
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Senate unveils the next incarnation of the Health bill. It may include the Cruz amendment which seems to solidify:

1) an expensive/non-existent lane for sick people and pre-existing conditions
2) a "normal" lane for people with steady jobs and benefits
3) a cheap but useless health policy lanes for those that feel they don't really need healthcare
4) the existing lane for people who can't afford anything

At some point a good chunk of the people in the third lane become people in the first lane or the fourth lane.
The one rational argument against Obamacare is that it put a lot of the burden on the middle class who didn't have insurance through their jobs. It forced them to buy more health insurance than they wanted so they would balance out the risk pool. This is the group that makes too much to qualify for subsidies, but were perfectly fine having high deductible catastrophic health insurance. I don't necessarily agree 100% with that argument, but I do think it is at least a legitimate point. If you'd rather take the chances with a cheap, high deductible plan, and can afford the deductibles if you have to, then I can see people wanting that to be an option.

I don't really feel comfortable supporting a Cruz idea, but if the plan is to keep Medicaid expansion as it was, to keep the subsidized plans costing about the same as they do, and offering options on the health care exchange for less coverage, then that is not a terrible idea. I don't know that this plan will necessarily end up looking that though.

The tricky part is going to be able to figure out how to keep the subsidized plans costing the same and offering the same while taking some of the healthy people out of the risk pool. But if it means that burden is shared by the broader tax base vs the much narrower middle class/no insurance through work plan than that is probably a good thing.

I get the points you are making, but I haven't seen anything that Obamacare's stipulation for pre-existing conditions is going away. And I don't think 3) is useless if you are comfortable with a cheap, catastrophic only plan. I am sure it will be set up in a way that you can move to higher coverage at open enrollment periods if you start to think you will need greater coverage.
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Won't be any need for them as in the end most won't be able to afford insurance. It's amazing to me that the GOP continues to trot out ideas that basically have no support from any camp. Not the citizens, not the medical professionals and not the insurers.

The amendments Graham is working on is just going to push everything to the state level which is another thing the GOP is hell bent on doing...creating even more of discrepancy between the have and have not states.
The have-not states are the Republican's base. I think I'm ok letting all the voters in those states suffer the consequences of what they voted for and letting the blue states have humane health care.
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Won't be any need for them as in the end most won't be able to afford insurance. It's amazing to me that the GOP continues to trot out ideas that basically have no support from any camp. Not the citizens, not the medical professionals and not the insurers.

The amendments Graham is working on is just going to push everything to the state level which is another thing the GOP is hell bent on doing...creating even more of discrepancy between the have and have not states.
But that's why the people elected them(idiots).
I saw a little town hall thing this morning on tv where they interviewed Trump voters, and one person actually said, she simply didn't take Trump seriously when he said he would repeal Obamacare. She thought he was kidding(idiots)
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