LOL no. Colleges are now where bigots finally get called out for their B.S. and then whine about it on Twitter.
This is about as painful as that Kellyanne Conway video. I mean, I get the view that this is overblown, that it's a series of incidents that don't represent everyday life on your average college campus, of which there are many - the vast majority, even - that don't experience anything like this. And certainly it's ridiculous that it's had such a deleterious impact on the view of Republicans about the value of post-secondary, because it's not that likely that your kid's going to go to a school that has one of these mass-insanity debacles, and even if it does, it's not like it affects everyone who goes there.
But to describe what happened at Yale, and Middlebury, and Berkeley, and now most egregiously Evergreen, as well as the handful of other schools where this sort of thing has made headlines (and others where it hasn't) as "bigots finally getting called out for their B.S." is nonsense.
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Details on the lawyer Trump Jr. met with, unsure on the quality of the source. But it does seem consistent with what I've read elsewhere and sums it up.
Before arranging a meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer he believed would offer him compromising information about Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Jr. was informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy, according to three people with knowledge of the email.
The email to the younger Mr. Trump was sent by Rob Goldstone, a publicist and former British tabloid reporter who helped broker the June 2016 meeting. In a statement on Sunday, Mr. Trump acknowledged that he was interested in receiving damaging information about Mrs. Clinton, but gave no indication that he thought the lawyer might have been a Kremlin proxy.
Mr. Goldstone’s message, as described to The New York Times by the three people, indicates that the Russian government was the source of the potentially damaging information. It does not elaborate on the wider effort by Moscow to help the Trump campaign. There is no evidence to suggest that the promised damaging information was related to Russian government computer hacking that led to the release of thousands of Democratic National Committee emails.
But the email is likely to be of keen interest to the Justice Department and congressional investigators, who are examining whether any of President Trump’s associates colluded with the Russian government to disrupt last year’s election. American intelligence agencies have determined that the Russian government attempted to sway the election in favor of Mr. Trump.
Before arranging a meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer he believed would offer him compromising information about Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Jr. was informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy, according to three people with knowledge of the email.
The email to the younger Mr. Trump was sent by Rob Goldstone, a publicist and former British tabloid reporter who helped broker the June 2016 meeting. In a statement on Sunday, Mr. Trump acknowledged that he was interested in receiving damaging information about Mrs. Clinton, but gave no indication that he thought the lawyer might have been a Kremlin proxy.
Mr. Goldstone’s message, as described to The New York Times by the three people, indicates that the Russian government was the source of the potentially damaging information. It does not elaborate on the wider effort by Moscow to help the Trump campaign. There is no evidence to suggest that the promised damaging information was related to Russian government computer hacking that led to the release of thousands of Democratic National Committee emails.
But the email is likely to be of keen interest to the Justice Department and congressional investigators, who are examining whether any of President Trump’s associates colluded with the Russian government to disrupt last year’s election. American intelligence agencies have determined that the Russian government attempted to sway the election in favor of Mr. Trump.
Before arranging a meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer he believed would offer him compromising information about Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Jr. was informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy, according to three people with knowledge of the email.
The email to the younger Mr. Trump was sent by Rob Goldstone, a publicist and former British tabloid reporter who helped broker the June 2016 meeting. In a statement on Sunday, Mr. Trump acknowledged that he was interested in receiving damaging information about Mrs. Clinton, but gave no indication that he thought the lawyer might have been a Kremlin proxy.
Mr. Goldstone’s message, as described to The New York Times by the three people, indicates that the Russian government was the source of the potentially damaging information. It does not elaborate on the wider effort by Moscow to help the Trump campaign. There is no evidence to suggest that the promised damaging information was related to Russian government computer hacking that led to the release of thousands of Democratic National Committee emails.
But the email is likely to be of keen interest to the Justice Department and congressional investigators, who are examining whether any of President Trump’s associates colluded with the Russian government to disrupt last year’s election. American intelligence agencies have determined that the Russian government attempted to sway the election in favor of Mr. Trump.
I wanna say there's no way they're actually this terrible at this, but yeah they are the Trump's, being terrible at things is pretty much their MO. Also notice Donnie has not come to defend Butt Head even once today, but he was there to defend Ivanka. I would guess the pecking order in the Trump household is something like.
1. Ivanka
2. Jared
3. Don Jr/Eric
4. Tiffany
(Note: Barron is unranked because there's at least a 60% chance Trump doesn't even know he exists).
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Trump Jr gets the headlines, but Kushner attended the collusion meeting, failed to disclose it as required by law & is still a WH official.
The White House asked the White House Correspondents' Association to single out a reporter and criticize an article, WHCA President Jeff Mason said Monday evening.
Mason's comment were made at a WHCA town hall where White House reporters pose questions to the WHCA board.
"The White House has come to ask me specifically, asking me to intervene or criticize a news organization or a reporter… to release a statement criticizing a reporter’s story," Mason said, declining to elaborate further on when the ask was made or about what article.
Mason said he declined to do so and that "we’ve made clear that’s not our role.”
Asked after the panel if the request was part of a new White House team learning how the WHCA works, Mason said he wasn't sure but didn't think so and that the White House clearly thought it was WHCA role to publicly chastise the reporter.
This is a video by Emin, who is mentioned in that article. Skip to 3:20 for some cringe.
I don't know why, but when I saw Emin I read Eminem. Also don't know why the clear picture to start the video didn't register.. So I started listening to the video and it took me like 90 seconds of "How in the world is this Eminem" and figuring my brain was broken before finally figuring it out.
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Spend a lot of time on a university campus, eh? Which one?
If not, which one did you go to and when? Things no doubt have changed, but considering your definitive opinion on the matter, I'm wondering how close to it you actually are.
touch on it briefly then back to the US politics.
actually, yes I have. I'm sure I've spent more time on a university campus than you have. as for which ones, that's none of your business.
over the last 20- 25 years post secondary arts education has changed. I see that from personal experience and from the many pieces one can find online.
no matter your political or personal viewpoints, classrooms have gone from a place that fosters discussion to one where many people are quick to get offended and "triggered" which has stifled the exchange and debate about ideas and beliefs.
this is by no means every class in every school, but happens so much now it does seems to be watering down the quality of education and the ability for many people to be exposed to new ideas or to reassess their current ones. you want specific examples I'll wait until a thread is started for it.
as for trump.
The Russia thing goes very deep and is scary how nobody down there seems to care, but I don't know if the news media should spend so much time focusing on it over the actual issues that affect the average American and where trump is hurting them.
I can see joe middle American shrugging his shoulders at "the Russia thing" by he needs to hear more about how what the trump administration is doing to his quality of life. his industry, his insurance.
this morning was Sebastian Gorka, deputy assistant to the president, another complete dbag, on CNN.
this starts out with Trump taking all of the credit for defeating ISIS and blaming Obama for starting the problem, and goes downhill from there
At one point the CNN host says, "You called us to come on the show."
It's obvious Trump is sending out all of his monkeys to try to deflect from Donny Jr's present problems.
actually, yes I have. I'm sure I've spent more time on a university campus than you have. as for which ones, that's none of your business.
over the last 20- 25 years post secondary arts education has changed. I see that from personal experience and from the many pieces one can find online.
no matter your political or personal viewpoints, classrooms have gone from a place that fosters discussion to one where many people are quick to get offended and "triggered" which has stifled the exchange and debate about ideas and beliefs.
this is by no means every class in every school, but happens so much now it does seems to be watering down the quality of education and the ability for many people to be exposed to new ideas or to reassess their current ones. you want specific examples I'll wait until a thread is started for it.
This isn't true. Speaking as someone who is actually in university and has a vast group of friends in secondary education both locally and abroad, your opinion boils down to a misunderstanding of what is going on.
Yes, on a rare occasion a student will excuse themselves when a topic like rape or sexual assault gets brought up. No, classes aren't full of SJW stopping those topics from being brought up.
I've been in political classes where we had to participate in full debates on things like abortion, gun control, gay marriage, assisted suicide, etc. Tough topics you had to sit through to get your grade with someone for all these things and someone against. Nobody cried. Nobody left. Nobody stopped this class from happening.
I walk by nice big posters of an aborted fetus every year, and every year it's a few people calmly debating the sign holders.
I've not heard a single story from any of my friends, many of whom you'd probably lump in with the "quick to get triggered" crowd, where they're successfully stopping conversations from happening. It's a tired conservative talking point designed to devalue the role of higher education and keep conservatives uneducated. Uneducated people are easier to manipulate.
I don't know what universities were like 20 years ago, but I do know that no respectful conversation is off the table today. You can talk about the tough things and, at worst, someone might excuse themselves. What you can't do is spread actual hate through racism, homophobia, or bigotry in general. I don't know if universities were a conservative haven for spreading hate 20 years ago, but maybe they've changed for the better if that's the case.
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this morning was Sebastian Gorka, deputy assistant to the president, another complete dbag, on CNN.
this starts out with Trump taking all of the credit for defeating ISIS and blaming Obama for starting the problem, and goes downhill from there
At one point the CNN host says, "You called us to come on the show."
It's obvious Trump is sending out all of his monkeys to try to deflect from Donny Jr's present problems.
Christ, that was painful. It's the same thing with these assclowns every time. "Hillary! Emails! Obama!"
The statement posted as a screencap of a word document is weird. Also weird is that the paragraph takes up 1/4 of the page, but he posted the whole page, most of which is blank.