06-21-2017, 07:19 PM
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#201
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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News UpdateBob McKenzie
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One year deal for Deryk Engelland with VGK, $1M in salary and $1M in potential bonuses.
good deal for the Knights
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06-21-2017, 07:19 PM
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#202
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Captaincanada80
I can't figure out if this is a tip of the cap to treliving for not having any valve to choose from or lack of depth in the system. Glass half full or empty?
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It doesn't say crap about our depth. Several important players were exempt because we're a young team exiting a rebuild.
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06-21-2017, 07:20 PM
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#203
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
PR move apparently.
If I was Vegas, I would have traded for the rights of Engelland and picked Kulak. Maybe they tried to acquire Engelland, but Treliving wouldn't trade him? Bizarre anyways
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It's not bizarre at all. Vegas just didn't like anyone who was exposed on the Flames so they decided to pick Engelland and sign him and not take a player. Vegas could have waited and signed him as a UFA but then would have been forced to pick a Flame which is clearly something they didn't want to do.
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06-21-2017, 07:21 PM
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#204
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
News UpdateBob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
One year deal for Deryk Engelland with VGK, $1M in salary and $1M in potential bonuses.
good deal for the Knights
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Good deal for Vegas. Surprised Engelland would take that before July 1
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06-21-2017, 07:21 PM
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#205
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Franchise Player
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Hometown discount at 1 mil per season and no term
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06-21-2017, 07:21 PM
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#206
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Good deal for Vegas. Surprised Engelland would take that before July 1
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probably why Vegas had to jump and pick him... price probably goes up if he hits market
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06-21-2017, 07:22 PM
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#207
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Cheap!
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06-21-2017, 07:22 PM
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#208
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
It doesn't say crap about our depth. Several important players were exempt because we're a young team exiting a rebuild.
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Actually, it does.
You can pretend it doesn't but when most of the team's bottom forwards were available and some prospects as well and Vegas decided they'd rather take no one, that does tell you a little about our depth.
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06-21-2017, 07:23 PM
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#209
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Franchise Player
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I would've taken Engelland back at that price. Nice deal for Vegas. Although, they're gonna have a lot of 5-6 defensemen...
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06-21-2017, 07:23 PM
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#210
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
News UpdateBob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
One year deal for Deryk Engelland with VGK, $1M in salary and $1M in potential bonuses.
good deal for the Knights
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Obligatory: Per year?!
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06-21-2017, 07:23 PM
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#211
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Franchise Player
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Flames have to add some kinda depth goon now. Even if only to be a 14th skater and ready for oilers games or they are gonna get beat down this year.
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06-21-2017, 07:23 PM
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#212
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Franchise Player
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That's a deal for Vegas only...wonder how he obtains th 1M bonus. I bet it's games played
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06-21-2017, 07:24 PM
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#213
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Red Deer, AB
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What a bargain
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06-21-2017, 07:25 PM
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#214
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Absolute warrior for the Flames. No nonsense, seemingly likeable,knew his weaknesses and as dependable as could be and added the toughness at the backstage Flames didn't have and don't have again.
Him taking on those two Canucks in Game 2 was epic and top 3 moments that playoffs for me.
Dont think I'd ever seen him smile,but grinning ear to ear to play fort the home town team. Good for him.
Almost certainly the Flames will be giving some thing up. But now isn't the time to announce that with a home town resident on the team.
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06-21-2017, 07:25 PM
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#215
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Franchise Player
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Vegas has taken lots of average players...I guess nobody has depth
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06-21-2017, 07:26 PM
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#216
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
I don't follow. Please explain your logic further.
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Actually, please don't.
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06-21-2017, 07:26 PM
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#217
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Actually, it does.
You can pretend it doesn't but when most of the team's bottom forwards were available and some prospects as well and Vegas decided they'd rather take no one, that does tell you a little about our depth.
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Engelland is not "no one". It's probably a huge deal for Vegas to have a few players that genuinely want to be there, and Engelland definitely fits that. He's also a decent bottom pair defenceman that's probably the toughest guy still in the NHL.
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06-21-2017, 07:26 PM
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#218
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Flames will now overreact and sign this years version of Grossman to improve "truculence"
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06-21-2017, 07:27 PM
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#219
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Actually, it does.
You can pretend it doesn't but when most of the team's bottom forwards were available and some prospects as well and Vegas decided they'd rather take no one, that does tell you a little about our depth.
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They didn't take no one. They took an NHL defensemen named Engelland. Arguably the most valuable player we exposed.
Why would they want our overpaid depth forwards? All of our best assets were protected. We didn't have any stupid NMC we had to protect. Important assets like Gillies, Parsons, Jankowski, Tkachuk, Andersson, Kylington all exempt. Those are part of our depth. So no, the expansion draft doesn't really tell you a ton about our depth at all.
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06-21-2017, 07:28 PM
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#220
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Franchise Player
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I'm convinced this is why we heard rumblings earlier from Treliving that the Flames were looking to bring Engelland back. By planting those seeds early, Treliving Jedi mind tricked Vegas to opt to sign the hometown Engelland instead of potentially walking away with another player and Engelland but risk having Calgary re - sign Engelland instead.
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