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Old 06-16-2017, 11:18 AM   #5781
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Hamonic might be the most over rated player in the league IMO
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Old 06-16-2017, 11:22 AM   #5782
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Hamonic might be the most over rated player in the league IMO
Chris Tanev says hi.
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Old 06-16-2017, 11:23 AM   #5783
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I am not sold on Lehner. Seems to be a typical blocking goalie who always gets beat top corner.
Agreed on Lehner. Aside from that, I was reading up on goalies and he is rumored to have some off-ice issues (that I won't go into detail about). I just don't think Lehner is a legitimate target for the Flames. I am still expecting the goalie to go through Vegas, whether it be Raanta, Grubauer, Pickard or perhaps Mason. Maybe two of those even. I don't think finding a bona fide starter this off-season is realistic any longer, but I do think the Flames will target one or two of these younger up and comers (not to say that Mason is a young up and comer, but he is also not widely seen as a legitimate or bona fide starter).
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Re: Hamonic
Overrated or not, he's sought after and any deal involving him is going to be a big one this summer.
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Old 06-16-2017, 11:26 AM   #5785
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Chris Tanev says hi.
Um no. Tanev is very good.
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Um no. Tanev is very good.
Sure, as a defensive 5-6 guy.
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so should we expect some action sometime today or early tomorrow?
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Old 06-16-2017, 11:29 AM   #5788
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Agreed on Lehner. Aside from that, I was reading up on goalies and he is rumored to have some off-ice issues (that I won't go into detail about). I just don't think Lehner is a legitimate target for the Flames. I am still expecting the goalie to go through Vegas, whether it be Raanta, Grubauer, Pickard or perhaps Mason. Maybe two of those even. I don't think finding a bona fide starter this off-season is realistic any longer, but I do think the Flames will target one or two of these younger up and comers (not to say that Mason is a young up and comer, but he is also not widely seen as a legitimate or bona fide starter).
The way the goalie market is playing out, it appears more and more like the long term answer in goal is going to have to come from within the organization.
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I would think if Hamonic were moving, its to Colorado for Duchene.
That would make sense but we are talking about the Avalanche so logic doesn't necessarily apply.
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(not to say that Mason is a young up and comer, but he is also not widely seen as a legitimate or bona fide starter).
Sounds like a perfect fit
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Old 06-16-2017, 12:12 PM   #5791
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But that would have to happen now for it to make sense.
Only if you throw in Hanowski. Can we even do that?
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Old 06-16-2017, 12:13 PM   #5792
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#Flames GM Brad Treliving says even without 2nd and 3rd rounder.. he feels his team can do something dramatic at Draft.
11:34 AM - 16 Jun 2017 · Calgary, Alberta

https://twitter.com/RogMillions?ref_...15%26page%3D10
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Crazy that Mason at 29 years of age has been in the league for close to a decade.
Pretty impressive for goaltender to start that early. Won the Calder trophy in his first year too.
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Thanks for the quote, I'm still blocked by Mr. Millions.

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11:34 AM - 16 Jun 2017 · Calgary, Alberta

https://twitter.com/RogMillions?ref_...15%26page%3D10
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Thanks for the quote, I'm still blocked by Mr. Millions.

Why?
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Old 06-16-2017, 12:18 PM   #5796
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Thanks for the quote, I'm still blocked by Mr. Millions.
########## you were doing so well
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I would trade Phillips way before I considered trading Mangiapane.
I've seen both play. Phillips quite a bit.

Phillips to me seems like a hungrier, more aggressive player with incredible vision.

Mangiapane is no slouch either.

Where I'm coming from is that with Johnny already in the lineup, I can't see Mangiapane making the big club anytime soon just due to team size.

With Phillips, he's a few years out and his development is not likely to stall like Mangiapane's could due to no spots.

I think Mangiapane has a ton of value, it may be worth considering moving him while there is demand on that type of player at that point in his career without running the risk of said development plateau'ing.

But why do you think Phillips should be moved before Mangiapane if it ever came to it?
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Thought I was being witty on twitter and mentioned this video...rest is history. He is a bit sensitive.

https://youtu.be/DikFNHqytVg
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Old 06-16-2017, 12:22 PM   #5799
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Crazy that Mason at 29 years of age has been in the league for close to a decade.
Pretty impressive for goaltender to start that early. Won the Calder trophy in his first year too.
It's pretty evident he's not plan A, B, or even C for the Flames given their reported interest in Bishop, MAF, Raanta, Smith, etc. No guarantee the Flames are even interested in him so I wouldn't get my hopes up on the Mason being a Flame unless the draft goes by and they still have two roster openings at the position.

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Sure, as a defensive 5-6 guy.
he's much better than that, from here (there's some nsfw language) and not to focus on the rankings but just the thoughts on Tanev, from last summer

https://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/...t-now-for-real

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Chris Tanev is the best shutdown defenseman in the NHL. He's good at doing the defenseman things. His shot suppression prevents 0.3 goals per 60 RelTM compared to an average player..... No one is in the same tier as Tanev when it comes to shot suppression.
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