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Old 06-15-2017, 10:15 AM   #5621
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Teams may not have all what you are saying but the Flames can get some of that, there are rumors of Oilers doing stuff and no rumors about the Flames, that is worrisome.
like when the oilers were rumourd to get dougie hamilton.. then at the end of the day we had hmailton and they had griffen reinhart..
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Old 06-15-2017, 10:16 AM   #5622
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How can we remain calm? We have no starting and clear cut #1 goalie, we have no top RW for the top line, we don't have a top 4 D man, we need someone to play with Sam Bennett and we have some contracts that we need to get out of and time is running.



We didn't have clear cut #1 goaltending last season either, and ended up winning 45 games.

We didn't have a clear cut top line RW last season either, and ended up winning 45 games.

We didn't have a clear cut #4 D-man last year either until late Jan, and ended up winning 45 games.



I the next 3 weeks we will have a goalie tandem just as capable of being as "average" as last years goalies were (the ones that combined for 45 wins despite being average, or slightly below average), maybe even better than average. We will also probably have Stone re-signed, and if it isn't Stone, it will be because Tre got someone even better than Stone somehow.

We don't NEED to get out of any contracts, we can afford all the things we need without ditching any contracts.

The core is young, and should improve for the most part, especially without a slow start for Mony/Johnny, a good #4 Dman from the get go and not having to learn an entirely different system from scratch.

No need to be panicky.
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The Oilers probable could protect 4 defense and 4 forwards if they traded Eberle for Hamonic unfortunately but agree with the cap space argument

Oilers would protect the following:
Lucic - F
Maroon - F
Nuge - F
Draisaitl - F
Sekera - D
Klefbom - D
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Exposes Letestu but he is 32 and only has 1 year left on his contract anyway so pretty sure the Oilers would much prefer that top 4 D than keeping Letestu
Do the Oilers not have to protect McJesus?
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Par is recommending Flames fans should crack open each other's heads and feast on the goo inside because no Flames rumors.
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Old 06-15-2017, 10:18 AM   #5625
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Do the Oilers not have to protect McJesus?
only 2 years pro experience, he is exempt from the draft.
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If what Dreger says is true and the Avs are a frontrunner, then have to think the Hamonic for Eberle is BS as the Avs aren't in a position to give up a d-man.
Must be tough being an Avalanche fan. Eberle seems like a complete 180 to the type of player they need to bring in. I fail to see how a soft, one-dimensional player is going to help a team that let in almost 300 goals last season. They were also last in GF but that was probably due to lack of puck possession or structure to which Eberle really isn't going to help. What a mess.
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so Shinkaruk will require waivers to go to the Heat next season along with Lazar. do we see them both on the roster come October or what?
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Par is recommending Flames fans should crack open each other's heads and feast on the goo inside because no Flames rumors.

LOL, no not at all, with all the insiders saying this is going to be busiest couple of weeks in the history of the NHL and all that kind of stuff, I got my hopes up and now, nothing is happening.
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Old 06-15-2017, 10:22 AM   #5629
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so Shinkaruk will require waivers to go to the Heat next season along with Lazar. do we see them both on the roster come October or what?
Lazar, yes. Shinkaruk will probably clear.
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oh great. doughty told Leafs Lunch that every southern Ontario boy secretly wants to play for the Leafs.

Guess we are going to be hearing Doughty to the Leafs rumors/speculation/paranoias/fan ficitions/erotica for the next couple of years. His contract with the kings is up in 2019.
Doughty has commented that the downside to winning the Cup on L.A. was the end of the anonymity that the players enjoyed. He said being noticed out on the town in L.A. "sucked". Being a star Leaf in Toronto would multiply that exposure tenfold. Especially for a party-boy like Doughty.

Maybe he'll feel differently if he settles down. But whatever his childhood feelings about the Leafs, it's hard to imagine Doughty enjoying playing in the fishbowl of Toronto.
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so Shinkaruk will require waivers to go to the Heat next season along with Lazar. do we see them both on the roster come October or what?
Lazar absolutely. Shinkaruk will be given an opportunity in training camp (providing he's still on the roster) to make the team to which if he doesn't the Flames will possibly lose him through waivers.
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How can we remain calm? We have no starting and clear cut #1 goalie, we have no top RW for the top line, we don't have a top 4 D man, we need someone to play with Sam Bennett and we have some contracts that we need to get out of and time is running.




This is really worrisome, if this happens, they maybe the best team in the west
Geez, my ignore list is getting busy these days...
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We didn't have a clear cut #4 D-man last year either until late Jan, and ended up winning 45 games.
I'd argue we didn't have one after late Jan either... we just had a more competent pretender.
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Old 06-15-2017, 10:56 AM   #5634
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One of my favourite things about the Flames organization, and I feel like it's been happening as long as I can remember, is that they seem to be very tight lipped about everything. Rarely are they involved in rumours about players until a deal is complete. It's always a nice surprise.
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Old 06-15-2017, 11:52 AM   #5635
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I have heard plenty of Flames rumors...all fake news
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Old 06-15-2017, 11:53 AM   #5636
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Teams may not have all what you are saying but the Flames can get some of that, there are rumors of Oilers doing stuff and no rumors about the Flames, that is worrisome.
Did you seriously just use rumours as a measuring stick to anoint the Oilers as the best team in the west and panic / pout that the Flames aren't doing anything?

Time to take a break and get some fresh air. How often to rumours EVER pan out?

The Flames have been notoriously tight lipped over Treliving's tenure. No smoke and them bam, Hamilton obtained.

Seriously, step away from the computer for a bit.
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Old 06-15-2017, 11:54 AM   #5637
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How do I stay calm??????

Um, its a game.
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Old 06-15-2017, 11:55 AM   #5638
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so Shinkaruk will require waivers to go to the Heat next season along with Lazar. do we see them both on the roster come October or what?
Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
? - Bennett - Lazar
Shinkaruk - Jankowski - Brouwer
Hamilton

Stajan - expansion
Bouma - AHL
? - Versteeg or upgrade.
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Old 06-15-2017, 11:58 AM   #5639
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The lack of activity, particularly with the roster freeze on Saturday, is really surprising me.
Most of the deals will be made after the expansion draft especially teams have so many handicaps in regards to protection and exposure requirements. Just very few willing and capable partners to deal with.
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Old 06-15-2017, 11:58 AM   #5640
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Im a big Ferland fan but the guy needs to step it up a couple notches for consistency as right now hes not consistent top 6 winger.
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