06-12-2017, 11:51 PM
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#5321
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Franchise Player
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Thinking it through lately... It wouldn't surprise me if lazar has already been dealt to vegas if the right scenario plays out. Flames jumping on trading for him at a weird time and then not playing him (I know the team was hot). Would have made more sense to wait for the offseason to make that move, it was an odd deadline deal. Unlikely but not a shocker if it goes down with vegas for me.
Lazar to vegas in return for vegas taking brouwer... Or 2nd choice of goalies available, something like that.
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06-13-2017, 05:53 AM
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#5322
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Anduril
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HA! I've never heard of this before and had a REAL good chuckle. Thanks!
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06-13-2017, 09:42 AM
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#5323
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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LeBrun also reporting that Neal may be left unprotected by Nashville. Not 100% confirmed yet, but a possibility
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06-13-2017, 09:51 AM
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#5324
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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looks like Phaneuf said No.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Dion Phaneuf is not expected to waive his NMC, as was requested by OTT. That means Phaneuf would have to be protected in expansion draft.
If ottawa sticks to a 7-3-1 protection scheme, that means they likely leave Methot unprotected. Or maybe Ceci
If they go to a 8-1 scheme to protect both Ceci and Methot, they can only protect 4 of the following:
Ryan, Hoffman, Brassard, Stone, Turris, Burrows, Pageau, Dzingel, etc
edit or this:
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
The other option for OTT would be to trade Phaneuf before submitting protected/exposed lists for expansion draft.
Last edited by sureLoss; 06-13-2017 at 09:55 AM.
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06-13-2017, 09:54 AM
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#5325
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
looks like Phaneuf said No.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Dion Phaneuf is not expected to waive his NMC, as was requested by OTT. That means Phaneuf would have to be protected in expansion draft.
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Ha ha. Good. I hate it when GM's get out of dumb moves.
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06-13-2017, 09:58 AM
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#5326
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Ha ha. Good. I hate it when GM's get out of dumb moves.
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Who's dumb move? Toronto for giving him a NTC or Ottawa for trading for it?
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06-13-2017, 09:58 AM
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#5327
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Ha ha. Good. I hate it when GM's get out of dumb moves.
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Yeap. Really pisses me off that they allowed the option of having a player agree to waive their NMC.
Should have forced teams to honor the clause or buy out the player.
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06-13-2017, 09:59 AM
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#5328
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Franchise Player
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Bieksa:
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Word is ANA did not ask him to waive in the end, but team and agent not commenting
nice
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06-13-2017, 09:59 AM
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#5329
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Wow. I am guessing Bieksa gets bought out now if Friedman report is true.
Mike Halford @HalfordPHT
Ducks, agent mum on Bieksa waiving no-movement clause
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Word is ANA did not ask him to waive in the end, but team and agent not commenting
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06-13-2017, 10:00 AM
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#5330
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
looks like Phaneuf said No.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Dion Phaneuf is not expected to waive his NMC, as was requested by OTT. That means Phaneuf would have to be protected in expansion draft.
If ottawa sticks to a 7-3-1 protection scheme, that means they likely leave Methot unprotected. Or maybe Ceci
If they go to a 8-1 scheme to protect both Ceci and Methot, they can only protect 4 of the following:
Ryan, Hoffman, Brassard, Stone, Turris, Burrows, Pageau, Dzingel, etc
edit or this:
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
The other option for OTT would be to trade Phaneuf before submitting protected/exposed lists for expansion draft.
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Going to be a hard sell to trade him with $28 million in cap hit over the next four years.
Ottawa's going to lose a decent player no way around it. In the 8-1 scenario I would probably protect Hoffman, Stone, Turris, and Pageau. Really though I don't see why they wouldn't go 7-3-1 and leave Methot available.
Last edited by Erick Estrada; 06-13-2017 at 10:03 AM.
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06-13-2017, 10:01 AM
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#5331
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronck
Who's dumb move? Toronto for giving him a NTC or Ottawa for trading for it?
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06-13-2017, 10:03 AM
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#5332
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: VanCity
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What about a trade with Dallas?
To Dallas: Our 16th overall pick
To Us: Nichushkin
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06-13-2017, 10:03 AM
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#5333
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Bieksa:
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Word is ANA did not ask him to waive in the end, but team and agent not commenting
nice
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Just Bieksa waiving didn't guarantee them avoiding losing a decent player (probably Vatanen), so it was a bit pointless to ask, unless they made a deal with Vegas to take Bieksa. If you're Vegas, the ask would be pretty steep, because you are giving up Vatanen, or maybe Rakell or Silfverberg.
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06-13-2017, 10:03 AM
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#5334
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Ducks saved
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
It's believed ANA has a pre-arranged deal in place with VGK so it isn't necessary to ask Kevin Bieksa to waive his NMC.
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06-13-2017, 10:08 AM
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#5335
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Going to be a hard sell to trade him with $28 million in cap hit over the next four years.
Ottawa's going to lose a decent player no way around it. In the 8-1 scenario I would probably protect Hoffman, Stone, Turris, and Pageau. Really though I don't see why they wouldn't go 7-3-1 and leave Methot available.
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Ryan's POs may give Ottawa pause about exposing him.
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06-13-2017, 10:09 AM
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#5336
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Maybe it's just me but I feel the fact that LV can make or agree to trades prior to the expansion draft is kind of silly. Kind of makes the draft a bit of a farce.
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06-13-2017, 10:11 AM
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#5337
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Ryan's POs may give Ottawa pause about exposing him.
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Doubtful. I imagine most GM's these days are pretty weary of overvaluing a single playoff performance as any indication of future play. They will likely be praying Ryan gets picked up especially seeing they are probably stuck with Phaneuf's contract.
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06-13-2017, 10:13 AM
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#5338
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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If Bieksa is not waiving what do the Ducks do?
Lindholm, Fowler, Manson, Vatanen
Figured they would trade Vatanen but would they move 2 of those Dmen?
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06-13-2017, 10:14 AM
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#5339
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Doubtful. I imagine most GM's these days are pretty weary of overvaluing a single playoff performance as any indication of future play. They will likely be praying Ryan gets picked up especially seeing they are probably stuck with Phaneuf's contract.
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I just know a lot of Ottawa media are on the "keep Ryan" bandwagon. Of course, they may have a pretty good notion that Vegas won't take him anyway. It's a pretty hefty contract.
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06-13-2017, 10:15 AM
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#5340
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
If Bieksa is not waiving what do the Ducks do?
Lindholm, Fowler, Manson, Vatanen
Figured they would trade Vatanen but would they move 2 of those Dmen?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Ducks saved
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
It's believed ANA has a pre-arranged deal in place with VGK so it isn't necessary to ask Kevin Bieksa to waive his NMC.
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