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			List assumes that the Flames make all necessary bonafide offers necesscary to retain rights for maximum length of time. Also assumes that any college committed prospects actually attend college. 
 
Rushan Rafikov 
7th round pick  
Flames rights technically expire June 1, 2017 however the lack of transfer agreement between Russia and the NHL might extend the Flames rights until he is 27 (precedence in Taresenko and Kuznetsov). upd:  *has been confirmed to be a defected player so Flames hold rights in perpetuity 
 
 
2015 draft 
Pavel Karnaukhov 
5th round pick 
Flames rights expire June 1, 2019 as he left major junior before he was 20 
*Karnaukhov is now considered a defected player, Flames hold his rights in perpetuity 
 
2016 draft 
Linus Lindstrom 
4th round pick 
Flames rights expire June 1, 2020 
 
Mitchell Mattson 
5th round pick 
Flames rights expire August 15, 2022 if he does his full 4 years in college because he is playing in the USHL year and committed to college next year. However he could become a free agent as early as June 1, 2020 if he leaves college after his sophomore. 
 
 
2017 draft 
Filip Sveningsson 
7th round pick 
Flames rights expire June 1, 2021 - drafted out of Europe 
 
 
2018 draft 
Demetrios Koumontzis 
4th round pick 
Flames rights expire August 15, 2022 - Arizona State 
 
Milos Roman 
4th round pick 
Flames rights expire June 1, 2020  
 
Mathias Emilio Pettersen 
6th round pick 
Flames rights expire August 15, 2022 - Univ of Denver 
 
2019 Draft 
Jakob Pelletier 
1st round pick 
Flames rights expire June 1, 2021 
 
Ilya Nikolaev 
3rd round pick 
Flames rights expire June 1, 2023 *could qualify for defector status and indefinite rights held 
 
Lucas Feuk 
4th round pick 
Flames rights expire June 1, 2023 
 
Josh Nodler 
5th round pick 
Flames rights expire August 15, 2023 
 
Dustin Wolf 
7th round pick 
Flames rights expire June 1, 2021
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			10-20-2016, 11:08 PM
			
			
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			Chronological view: 
 
 
 
 
June 1, 2020 
Lindstrom 
Roman 
 
 
June 1, 2021 
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Wolf 
 
 
 
 
August 15, 2022 
Mattson *if he stays in college for 4 years 
Koumontzis 
Pettersen 
 
June 1, 2023 
Nikolaev *could qualify for defector status 
Feuk 
 
August 15, 2023 
Nodler 
 
Rights held indefinitely until he signs a NHL contract 
Rafikov *has been confirmed to be a defected player so Flames hold rights in perpetuity 
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			10-20-2016, 11:51 PM
			
			
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			When should we start to panic about Hickey?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-21-2016, 12:21 AM
			
			
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				When should we start to panic about Hickey? 
			
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Why not right now?
But in all seriousness if he isn't signed after this season you can start to hover your hand over the panic button.  Especially if the Flames wanted to sign him but he decided to go back to college for the 4th year anyways.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-21-2016, 02:01 PM
			
			
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			If the Flames can't sign Hickey during the off-season I imagine he will be traded.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-21-2016, 02:42 PM
			
			
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			Great thread Sureloss
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-27-2016, 11:15 PM
			
			
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			Did Karri Ramo have his NHL rights extended? 
 
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			10-28-2016, 12:35 PM
			
			
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				Did Karri Ramo have his NHL rights extended? 
 
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He was a RFA when he was in Europe.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-29-2016, 07:45 AM
			
			
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			Does the fact that Hickey is from Alberta make us panic more or less? Not your typical American College player who goes UFA.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-29-2016, 10:30 AM
			
			
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				Does the fact that Hickey is from Alberta make us panic more or less? Not your typical American College player who goes UFA. 
			
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Probably less.
 
Usually when a college draft prospect goes UFA, it is because they feel they have a better opportunity to break into the NHL elsewhere. Or have just as good opportunity elsewhere but can play closer to home.
 
Based on the top college UFAs in the past years, most choose to sign close to home.  (i.e. players from Northeastern USA sign with Northeastern NHL teams, players from Minnesota tend to sign with the Wild, etc). Therefore it should help the Flames case.
 
The biggest factor will be how good of a relationship the Flames have with Hickey and do they have him convinced that signing with the Flames is one of his best options for his goal of becoming a NHL player.
 
So far it sounds like Treliving and company have done a good job building relationships with prospects.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-01-2017, 05:53 PM
			
			
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			Of note: the deadline of 5pm ET on June 1st has elapsed and no official announcement of a signing; safe to say the Flames did not sign Riley Bruce and he will re enter the 2017 draft. 
 
If he doesn't get picked he will be a free agent. 
 
No surprise as he did not do much to increase his stock.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-01-2017, 06:18 PM
			
			
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			He has not signed.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			06-01-2017, 06:20 PM
			
			
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			So long, Riley Bruce. We hardly knew ye.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-01-2017, 06:56 PM
			
			
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			Too bad we didnt draft myers instead of bruce. 
 
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			06-01-2017, 07:06 PM
			
			
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				Probably less. 
 
Usually when a college draft prospect goes UFA, it is because they feel they have a better opportunity to break into the NHL elsewhere. Or have just as good opportunity elsewhere but can play closer to home. 
 
Based on the top college UFAs in the past years, most choose to sign close to home.  (i.e. players from Northeastern USA sign with Northeastern NHL teams, players from Minnesota tend to sign with the Wild, etc). Therefore it should help the Flames case. 
 
The biggest factor will be how good of a relationship the Flames have with Hickey and do they have him convinced that signing with the Flames is one of his best options for his goal of becoming a NHL player. 
 
So far it sounds like Treliving and company have done a good job building relationships with prospects. 
			
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The thing that worries me the most about the potential failure to sign him is the possibility that, as an Alberta boy, he might forsake the Flames to sign with the Edmonton McDivers.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-02-2017, 11:30 AM
			
			
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				Too bad we didnt draft myers instead of bruce. 
 
Dammit anyways 
			
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Which "Myers" are you referring to?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-02-2017, 11:40 AM
			
			
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				Which "Myers" are you referring to? 
			
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Philippe Myers
Went undrafted and the Flames had interest in him. Invited to development camp but ultimately Philly gave him a contract and he's blown up since.
 
Was on the most recent Canada WJU20 team. 6'5" 210lb right shooting Dman who can skate and put up points.
 
he only had 0.13 ppg in his draft year, then followed that up with 0.71 ppg and 1.00 ppg
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-08-2017, 10:01 AM
			
			
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			Treliving confirmed today that Rafikov is considered a defected player and therefore the Flames will retain his rights in "perpetuity"
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-08-2017, 10:27 AM
			
			
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				Philippe Myers
Went undrafted and the Flames had interest in him. Invited to development camp but ultimately Philly gave him a contract and he's blown up since.
 
Was on the most recent Canada WJU20 team. 6'5" 210lb right shooting Dman who can skate and put up points.
 
he only had 0.13 ppg in his draft year, then followed that up with 0.71 ppg and 1.00 ppg  
			
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Ah yes! that Myers...would have been nice for sure.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-24-2017, 02:10 PM
			
			
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