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		|  10-20-2016, 10:06 PM | #1 |  
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				 Unsigned draft pick rights status 
 
			
			List assumes that the Flames make all necessary bonafide offers necesscary to retain rights for maximum length of time. Also assumes that any college committed prospects actually attend college.
 Rushan Rafikov
 7th round pick
 Flames rights technically expire June 1, 2017 however the lack of transfer agreement between Russia and the NHL might extend the Flames rights until he is 27 (precedence in Taresenko and Kuznetsov). upd:  *has been confirmed to be a defected player so Flames hold rights in perpetuity
 
 
 2015 draft
 Pavel Karnaukhov
 5th round pick
 Flames rights expire June 1, 2019 as he left major junior before he was 20
 *Karnaukhov is now considered a defected player, Flames hold his rights in perpetuity
 
 2016 draft
 Linus Lindstrom
 4th round pick
 Flames rights expire June 1, 2020
 
 Mitchell Mattson
 5th round pick
 Flames rights expire August 15, 2022 if he does his full 4 years in college because he is playing in the USHL year and committed to college next year. However he could become a free agent as early as June 1, 2020 if he leaves college after his sophomore.
 
 
 2017 draft
 Filip Sveningsson
 7th round pick
 Flames rights expire June 1, 2021 - drafted out of Europe
 
 
 2018 draft
 Demetrios Koumontzis
 4th round pick
 Flames rights expire August 15, 2022 - Arizona State
 
 Milos Roman
 4th round pick
 Flames rights expire June 1, 2020
 
 Mathias Emilio Pettersen
 6th round pick
 Flames rights expire August 15, 2022 - Univ of Denver
 
 2019 Draft
 Jakob Pelletier
 1st round pick
 Flames rights expire June 1, 2021
 
 Ilya Nikolaev
 3rd round pick
 Flames rights expire June 1, 2023 *could qualify for defector status and indefinite rights held
 
 Lucas Feuk
 4th round pick
 Flames rights expire June 1, 2023
 
 Josh Nodler
 5th round pick
 Flames rights expire August 15, 2023
 
 Dustin Wolf
 7th round pick
 Flames rights expire June 1, 2021
 
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		|  10-20-2016, 10:08 PM | #2 |  
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			Chronological view:
 
 
 
 June 1, 2020
 Lindstrom
 Roman
 
 
 June 1, 2021
 Sveningsson
 Pelletier
 Wolf
 
 
 
 
 August 15, 2022
 Mattson *if he stays in college for 4 years
 Koumontzis
 Pettersen
 
 June 1, 2023
 Nikolaev *could qualify for defector status
 Feuk
 
 August 15, 2023
 Nodler
 
 Rights held indefinitely until he signs a NHL contract
 Rafikov *has been confirmed to be a defected player so Flames hold rights in perpetuity
 Karnaukhov
 
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		|  10-20-2016, 10:51 PM | #3 |  
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			When should we start to panic about Hickey?
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		|  10-20-2016, 11:21 PM | #4 |  
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					Originally Posted by JiriHrdina  When should we start to panic about Hickey? |  Why not right now?
 
But in all seriousness if he isn't signed after this season you can start to hover your hand over the panic button.  Especially if the Flames wanted to sign him but he decided to go back to college for the 4th year anyways.
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		|  10-21-2016, 01:01 PM | #5 |  
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			If the Flames can't sign Hickey during the off-season I imagine he will be traded.
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		|  10-21-2016, 01:42 PM | #6 |  
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			Great thread Sureloss
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		|  10-27-2016, 10:15 PM | #7 |  
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			Did Karri Ramo have his NHL rights extended?
 It seems like he was in Europe for a while before he came to Calgary
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		|  10-28-2016, 11:35 AM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1qqaaz  Did Karri Ramo have his NHL rights extended?
 It seems like he was in Europe for a while before he came to Calgary
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He was a RFA when he was in Europe.
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		|  10-29-2016, 06:45 AM | #9 |  
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			Does the fact that Hickey is from Alberta make us panic more or less? Not your typical American College player who goes UFA.
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		|  10-29-2016, 09:30 AM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by JohnnyTitan  Does the fact that Hickey is from Alberta make us panic more or less? Not your typical American College player who goes UFA. |  
Probably less.
 
Usually when a college draft prospect goes UFA, it is because they feel they have a better opportunity to break into the NHL elsewhere. Or have just as good opportunity elsewhere but can play closer to home.
 
Based on the top college UFAs in the past years, most choose to sign close to home.  (i.e. players from Northeastern USA sign with Northeastern NHL teams, players from Minnesota tend to sign with the Wild, etc). Therefore it should help the Flames case.
 
The biggest factor will be how good of a relationship the Flames have with Hickey and do they have him convinced that signing with the Flames is one of his best options for his goal of becoming a NHL player.
 
So far it sounds like Treliving and company have done a good job building relationships with prospects.
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		|  06-01-2017, 04:53 PM | #11 |  
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			Of note: the deadline of 5pm ET on June 1st has elapsed and no official announcement of a signing; safe to say the Flames did not sign Riley Bruce and he will re enter the 2017 draft.
 If he doesn't get picked he will be a free agent.
 
 No surprise as he did not do much to increase his stock.
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		|  06-01-2017, 05:18 PM | #12 |  
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			He has not signed.
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		|  06-01-2017, 05:20 PM | #13 |  
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			So long, Riley Bruce. We hardly knew ye.
		 
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		|  06-01-2017, 05:56 PM | #14 |  
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			Too bad we didnt draft myers instead of bruce.
 Dammit anyways
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		|  06-01-2017, 06:06 PM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by sureLoss  Probably less.
 Usually when a college draft prospect goes UFA, it is because they feel they have a better opportunity to break into the NHL elsewhere. Or have just as good opportunity elsewhere but can play closer to home.
 
 Based on the top college UFAs in the past years, most choose to sign close to home.  (i.e. players from Northeastern USA sign with Northeastern NHL teams, players from Minnesota tend to sign with the Wild, etc). Therefore it should help the Flames case.
 
 The biggest factor will be how good of a relationship the Flames have with Hickey and do they have him convinced that signing with the Flames is one of his best options for his goal of becoming a NHL player.
 
 So far it sounds like Treliving and company have done a good job building relationships with prospects.
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The thing that worries me the most about the potential failure to sign him is the possibility that, as an Alberta boy, he might forsake the Flames to sign with the Edmonton McDivers.
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		|  06-02-2017, 10:30 AM | #16 |  
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					Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy  Too bad we didnt draft myers instead of bruce.
 Dammit anyways
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Which "Myers" are you referring to?
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		|  06-02-2017, 10:40 AM | #17 |  
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					Originally Posted by Since1984  Which "Myers" are you referring to? |  
Went undrafted and the Flames had interest in him. Invited to development camp but ultimately Philly gave him a contract and he's blown up since.
 
Was on the most recent Canada WJU20 team. 6'5" 210lb right shooting Dman who can skate and put up points.
 
he only had 0.13 ppg in his draft year, then followed that up with 0.71 ppg and 1.00 ppg
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		|  06-08-2017, 09:01 AM | #18 |  
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			Treliving confirmed today that Rafikov is considered a defected player and therefore the Flames will retain his rights in "perpetuity"
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		|  06-08-2017, 09:27 AM | #19 |  
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					Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy  Philippe Myers
Went undrafted and the Flames had interest in him. Invited to development camp but ultimately Philly gave him a contract and he's blown up since.
 
Was on the most recent Canada WJU20 team. 6'5" 210lb right shooting Dman who can skate and put up points.
 
he only had 0.13 ppg in his draft year, then followed that up with 0.71 ppg and 1.00 ppg |  
Ah yes! that Myers...would have been nice for sure.
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		|  06-24-2017, 01:10 PM | #20 |  
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			updated for 2017 draft picks
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