05-09-2017, 04:10 PM
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#61
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Apartment 5A
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Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
CGY, as it was last summer, was in on trade talks to get Ben Bishop's rights before LA ultimately dealt him to DAL.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
It's believed Bishop's preference was to be dealt to DAL. BTW, Bishop played junior hockey in Texas.
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05-09-2017, 04:10 PM
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#62
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Let's see who we actually end up with before judging Treliving.
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05-09-2017, 04:10 PM
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#63
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
It's believed Bishop's preference was to be dealt to DAL. BTW, Bishop played junior hockey in Texas.
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05-09-2017, 04:10 PM
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#64
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Franchise Player
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I am happy he got traded to the Stars. Someone his age with a long term contract with big dollars and his injury history? We dodged a bullet.
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05-09-2017, 04:12 PM
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#65
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
That is fine.
I did not particularly want Bishop anyway.
Would rather snag a young goalie or trade for Mike Smith/MAF/Howard. Worried about Bishop turning into Hiller 2.0.
The Flames realistically need a goalie only for 2-3 seasons anyway until Gillies/Parsons are ready to take over the net.
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Ummm Hiller was never even close to a Bishop 1.0 so I don't believe Bishop would ever be a Hiller 2.0
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05-09-2017, 04:15 PM
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#66
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Man this even makes me more pissed if that source was right about the Flames having a deal in place for Bishop at the deadline and then missing out because Tre and Burke had to wait for "approval" from a newspaper man.
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Entirely untrue imo.
why would Ken King have to give approval on a trade anyhow? Do you believe Tre or Burke in particular, would work in such a scenario?
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05-09-2017, 04:17 PM
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#67
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something else haha
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Of course Bishop was willing to waive his NTC to come to Calgary, as long as the contract AAV started with an 8.
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05-09-2017, 04:17 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
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So Bishop preferred Dallas to Calgary anyways. No real shock there. Bummer, but when the player prefers to go to one of the other possible destinations it is what it is.
...stings a lil bit.
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05-09-2017, 04:21 PM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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MAF/Murray just got much much much cheaper.
As I see it, the list of teams that are even slightly interested are: Detroit, Arizona, Philadelphia, Colorado, Vancouver, Islanders, Buffalo, Tampa Bay, Winnipeg, and Florida. A good bulk of those are listed only because it's possible they'd let their starter got to Vegas for an upgrade on MAF/Murray. Basically, at this point they're at least on the phone.
Realistically, it's Vancouver and Winnipeg right?
Last edited by Split98; 05-09-2017 at 04:24 PM.
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05-09-2017, 04:21 PM
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#70
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Yeah, but Dallas sucks so
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05-09-2017, 04:22 PM
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#71
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Bishop was my top choice and Dallas was always going to be our biggest competition to get him. If Dalls gets a deal done (I assume they will) then things are really lining up for a Pitt-Cgy deal for Fleury or maybe Murray
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05-09-2017, 04:22 PM
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#72
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Montreal
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Entirely untrue imo.
why would Ken King have to give approval on a trade anyhow? Do you believe Tre or Burke in particular, would work in such a scenario?
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Apparently, King had the last word prior to Tre's new contract, according to this reporter's twitter:
It's a pretty interesting thread.
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05-09-2017, 04:22 PM
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#73
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Franchise Player
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If they sign Bishop for $6 million and buy out Niemi they will have 13.4 million against their cap for goalies next year.
If they sign Bishop for $6 million and buy out Lehtonen they will have 13.1 million against the cap for goalies next year.
####ing idiots.
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05-09-2017, 04:24 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Split98
MAF/Murray just got much much much cheaper.
As I see it, the list of teams that are even slightly interested are: Detroit, Arizona, Philadelphia, Colorado, Vancouver, Islanders, Buffalo, Tampa Bay, Winnipeg, and Florida. A good bulk of those are possible only because it's possible they'd let their starter got to Vegas for an upgrade on MAF/Murray. Basically, at this point they're at least on the phone.
Realistically, it's Vancouver and Winnipeg right?
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Winnipeg likely wants to protect Hellybuck. Honestly that team has Elliott written all over it. Vancouver may be okay losing Markstrom but they are admittedly in a rebuild so trading for a 32 year old goalie makes no sense. It is really lining up for Calgary to get a deal done for a penguin goalie
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05-09-2017, 04:26 PM
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#75
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
If they sign Bishop for $6 million and buy out Niemi they will have 13.4 million against their cap for goalies next year.
If they sign Bishop for $6 million and buy out Lehtonen they will have 13.1 million against the cap for goalies next year.
####ing idiots.
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The Flames are spending 9 million for a 5th line of forwards next year unless Vegas bails Tre out
At least Bishop isn't hot garbage like a lot of the dead weight on the Flames
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05-09-2017, 04:27 PM
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GOAT!
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I thought what they were saying on the Fan the other day about Vegas potentially controlling the goaltender market this offseason was pretty interesting.
Essentially, there's speculation that Vegas could take up to 7 goaltenders in the expansion draft, keep one or two for themselves, and then trade the rest away for better assets than what was available on the expansion lists.
Like they could potentially pick Lack, Grubauer, Howard, Niemi, Varlamov, Fleuy and Dubnyk (for example) and then decide to keep Grubauer and trade the rest for a cheap backup and draft picks or whatever they can get.
Last edited by FanIn80; 05-09-2017 at 04:29 PM.
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05-09-2017, 04:27 PM
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#77
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Stampede Grounds
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No surprise with this news. We are not a welcome or forgiving destination for NHL goalies in recent seasons. Anyone with options is almost certain to choose a destination over Calgary.
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05-09-2017, 04:28 PM
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#78
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Friedman says the Bishop deal to Calgary last summer was killed by Flames ownership:
https://www.fanragsports.com/news/fr...p-last-summer/
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“And you’ll remember last year Ben Bishop thought he was going to Calgary. He thought he had a six-year deal worth somewhere between $36-39 million and that deal was killed by Calgary ownership at the end of the day.
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05-09-2017, 04:28 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itse
Let's see who we actually end up with before judging Treliving.
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Agreed. But I have to say, if he ####s this up and ends up with another year of bad/mediocre goaltending, I'm going to be super pissed off.
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05-09-2017, 04:28 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Winnipeg likely wants to protect Hellybuck. Honestly that team has Elliott written all over it. Vancouver may be okay losing Markstrom but they are admittedly in a rebuild so trading for a 32 year old goalie makes no sense. It is really lining up for Calgary to get a deal done for a penguin goalie
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Thank you! I was thinking about this all day yesterday... then this happened.
Glad to hear someone chime in on my mumblings
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