05-01-2017, 10:33 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: 555 Saddledome Rise SE
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They really need to change the criteria of the Hart from "most valuable to his team" to "most valuable".
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05-02-2017, 06:41 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
When your team makes the playoffs for the first time since Chris Pronger wore your jersey and you score 100 points in a league that doesn't do that anymore AND you do it all before you're 21, you're the MVP.
I really wish this kid was not an Oiler, it ####ing sucks wanting nothing but bad things to happen to a tremendous young player.
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I don't think anyone is arguing that he is a good player, I just think that Talbot is the reason they made the playoffs and are succeeding in the playoffs, not McDavid.
I think Talbot is Edmontons mvp, whereas McDavid is their poster child.
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05-02-2017, 07:09 AM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Alberta
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I think it's between McDavid and Bobrovsky. they were to me, way more valuable to their team than Crosby.
I think if he was healthy for the whole year, Malkin may have been the Pens MVP, and possibly won the art ross.
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05-02-2017, 07:26 AM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poster
Salty Poster alert.
No sure if you just think you are funny or if you really believe the nonsense you posted.
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Much as you masquerade as a 'Poster' who says anything anyone would care about.
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05-02-2017, 07:59 AM
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#25
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Locke
He has the most points. Thats pretty much the only criteria. I hope he lets the stat-counters at Rexall Roger's rub it a little because his nice 4th and 5th assists that they bumped up to 3rd assists really helped him out.
The nice part about this is that Edmonton is going to get totally hosed on his bonus cushion.
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Is this really a thing (aside from the bogus hits and giveaway stats)? I'm not disagreeing, I'm actually wondering as I always thought the NHL did all the official scoring and even corrected scoring plays the next day to ensure accuracy. I would think gambling sites and daily fantasy hockey sites would be pretty quick to point out inaccurate stats and make a big deal of it.
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05-02-2017, 08:04 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burnitdown
Is this really a thing (aside from the bogus hits and giveaway stats)? I'm not disagreeing, I'm actually wondering as I always thought the NHL did all the official scoring and even corrected scoring plays the next day to ensure accuracy. I would think gambling sites and daily fantasy hockey sites would be pretty quick to point out inaccurate stats and make a big deal of it.
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I'll admit that I havent thoroughly checked into McDavid, but I recall doing it for Crosby in his early years and he was getting some 'generous' phantom assists.
The thing is...those bogus hits and giveaway stats? They're calculated by the same people.
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05-02-2017, 08:44 AM
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#27
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Franchise Player
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Should be McDavid. Without Crosby, Pens still make playoffs.
Without Bob, CBJ is still a good team.
Without McDavid the Oilers are a lottery team. Admittedly, Talbot probably deserves it as well, but forwards always get the edge in Hart votes.
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05-02-2017, 09:15 AM
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#28
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Should be McDavid. Without Crosby, Pens still make playoffs.
Without Bob, CBJ is still a good team.
Without McDavid the Oilers are a lottery team. Admittedly, Talbot probably deserves it as well, but forwards always get the edge in Hart votes.
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Except Iggy.
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05-02-2017, 09:47 AM
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#29
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Norm!
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Come on guys we need to bury our feelings on this one and our hatred and disdain for Edmonton. If you pray to any gods pray that McDavid wins this, if you pray to the hockey gods then pray for McDavid. If you pray to the old gods, sacrifice for McDavid.
That Hart award has got to be worth about 2 million bucks a year.
We want him to win it
We want his manager to be able to sit across the desk from Chia with an arrogant smirk and one number on his mind.
Max salary max length.
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05-02-2017, 09:57 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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McJesus will win it. And deservedly so.
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05-02-2017, 10:03 AM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Does he get a bonus for winning it? That would be nice.
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I would imagine so. Any agent for a top player that doesn't include clauses for awards isn't doing his job.
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05-02-2017, 10:06 AM
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#33
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I would imagine so. Any agent for a top player that doesn't include clauses for awards isn't doing his job.
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He has already maxed his bonus's so it doesn't really matter.
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05-02-2017, 01:41 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
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He gets to say "MVP" at his next contract negotiation
lol@Oiler fans thinking he will sign for 10M
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05-02-2017, 01:42 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
He gets to say "MVP" at his next contract negotiation
lol@Oiler fans thinking he will sign for 10M
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Who said that?
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05-02-2017, 02:15 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
He gets to say "MVP" at his next contract negotiation
lol@Oiler fans thinking he will sign for 10M
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Weitz
Who said that?
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I have had the discussion with Oiler fans (at least those that aren't idiots about the team). Some of them really believe that he will take a Discount to stay in Edmonton.
I think both the PA and his agent will be driving the salary up as high as possible.
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05-02-2017, 02:18 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Weitz
Who said that?
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I have heard lots of fans on message boards and IRL
say 9.7X8 and stuff like that...they are dreaming
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05-02-2017, 02:37 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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I feel like McDavid is going to get max money up until he is a free agent and then leaves in free agency.
Oilers kind of have to win now or never. Or hope the Canadian dollar and the cap go up a lot.
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05-02-2017, 02:38 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Republic of Panama
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poster
Salty Poster alert.
No sure if you just think you are funny or if you really believe the nonsense you posted.
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Actually I think a lot of the members on here think Locke is funny. At least anyone with a sense of humour.
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05-02-2017, 07:18 PM
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#40
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamingHomer
Actually I think a lot of the members on here think Locke is funny. At least anyone with a sense of humour.
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Well, funny for an accountant.
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