American Politics Thread: Orange is the new POTUS

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Of course it is, but so far they are far from willing, at some point enough is enough before it's too late.

If you want to radicalize a generation of people bombing them is a good start. MAD is a good thing to prevent US imperialism.

[PsYcNeT]

Can someone clarify why Americans are so concerned about Iran?

Like, the Saudis openly support and back terrorist groups that wish harm on the US, but Iran is the target of sanctions because they have been mean in a public forum? IDGI

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Can someone clarify why Americans are so concerned about Iran?

Like, the Saudis openly support and back terrorist groups that wish harm on the US, but Iran is the target of sanctions because they have been mean in a public forum? IDGI

they're olive skinned, unlike Putin.

[David Struch]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Can someone clarify why Americans are so concerned about Iran?IDGI

No Rothchild Central Bank?

[RougeUnderoos]

The Donald was just signing those cool "Make America Great Again" hats on the White House lawn during the Easter egg thing. Some guy was waving a red Washington Capitals hat in the hopes of getting it signed. He was ignored.

What does this mean? Nothing at all, but it was kind of funny.

[DuffMan]

Trump tweets this morning. He sure is acting normal and all, hosting the Easter Egg thing with all the kids today. Not obsessed with Obama or media or anything like that.

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago

The super Liberal Democrat in the Georgia Congressioal race tomorrow wants to protect criminals, allow illegal immigration and raise taxes!

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago

The Fake Media (not Real Media) has gotten even worse since the election. Every story is badly slanted. We have to hold them to the truth!

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago
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A great book for your reading enjoyment: "REASONS TO VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS" by Michael J. Knowles.

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago
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"The first 90 days of my presidency has exposed the total failure of the last eight years of foreign policy!" So true. @foxandfriends

[PsYcNeT]

I can't believe how much money that Knowles guy is making from printing a blank book.

What a bunch of rubes, holy moley.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

I can't believe how much money that Knowles guy is making from printing a blank book.

What a bunch of rubes, holy moley.

When ideology and dogma are fused with a lack of critical thinking and flat out hatred, it becomes the sweet spot for patriotic jingoism.... and making money of course.

Its easy to hurl stone and insults from the peanut gallery... its a far, far, far different thing to govern.

All we heard for 8 years was how bad Obamacare was and how the GOP would fix it... but they didn't have a plan at all! They just push and prodded people with catchy phrases and poured salt on wedge issues. When the rubber had to hit the road, they couldn't pass their own damn bill, that's with the presidency and both damn houses.

People are more than welcome to say Obama's foreign policy sucked - the amount of credence given to that opinion is dependent on whether they have any actual knowledge on why they hold that opinion, as opposed to parroting something they heard on Faux News.

Reminds me of all the people complaining about Obamacare and voting to get rid of it because they had the ACA... Christ...

In some ways, I hope Trump smashes the system and installs his kleptocracy... 46% of the US deserve everything it will bring...unfortunately there's 48% who didn't vote for him and they are going to suffer for it like everyone else

[GirlySports]

It would be interesting if Asaad was defeated and it was a Russian puppet government instead of a US puppet one like in Iraq and Afghanistan and everywhere else.

Could the US get Asaad and wipe their hands of the whole thing?

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Not a huge deal, but I laughed.

https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/853979591198863360

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

It would be interesting if Asaad was defeated and it was a Russian puppet government instead of a US puppet one like in Iraq and Afghanistan and everywhere else.

Could the US get Asaad and wipe their hands of the whole thing?

and that's one "out" that they can attempt in order to restore some sense of order to the region...

oust Assad, keep the rest of the government intact...so there's not the total reconstruction like Iraq, and the centers of power in Syria remain relatively unscathed...

not so great for Assad, but amenable to Russia and Iran...deescalates the situation... potentially install someone that's less tyrannical... long term? who knows whether it will work...

the sectarian violence is the issue here, it may be too late to put that genie back into the bottle at this point... Undoubtedly an alawite (Sh ii te) president will be installed so it quite possible that that regime goes authoritarian down the road and suppresses sunnis and other minorities in retaliation of the uprising to begin with...

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Can someone clarify why Americans are so concerned about Iran?

Like, the Saudis openly support and back terrorist groups that wish harm on the US, but Iran is the target of sanctions because they have been mean in a public forum? IDGI

They're Frenemises with the saudis though...

entry into the nuclear club is for allies only

[direwolf]

So much winning.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.98f8a244b353

A new poll from Gallup released early Monday finds that a majority of Americans no longer view Trump as keeping his promises, with poll numbers on that question falling from 62 percent in February to 45 percent in early April, a stunning tumble of 17 percentage points. The drop was seen across every demographic group: women, men, millennials, baby boomers and people with political leanings of all kinds. While numbers sank the furthest among respondents who identified as a Democrat or liberal, independents who said they thought Trump kept his promises fell from 59 percent to 43 percent; even among Republicans, the numbers fell, from 92 percent to 81 percent.

The ratings dive was most stark when it came to women who think Trump keeps his promises — just 40 percent now say he does, compared with 65 percent in February, a striking 25 percentage-point plunge. In a write-up of the results, Gallup explained that the numbers came after Trump's defeat over repealing the Affordable Care Act, as supporters have become unhappy he hasn't done more on taxes and immigration while detractors are upset he hasn't protected middle- and working-class Americans.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by direwolf

So much winning.

Everything is right on track...

the Wall.
Muslim ban
ACA repeal
defeating ISIS
etc. etc. etc.

WASHINGTON — President Trump marked his first Easter Egg Roll on Monday by defending his record in office.

"We will be stronger and bigger and better as a nation than ever before and we are right on track," Trump said from the South Portico balcony, though he did not provide specifics in his brief remarks ahead of the annual festivities that date back to 1878.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/...vFF?li=AAggNb9

[Minnie]

[Hack&Lube]

Happy Easter Sean Spicer! (official Whitehouse Bunny Costume Mascot during Bush administration)

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Thor

Before what is too late? We had how many decades of MAD with the USSR before they collapsed, what makes you think N Korea or Iran would be stupid enough to take any action which would give the west an excuse to invade or attack them?

Sorry but potentially killing millions of South Koreans is never worth the risk, contain, isolate and continue doing what has been happening to N Korea, smuggling in USB sticks with TV shows, music, news, eventually this regime will collapse.

With Iran the youth of that nation in about 10-20 years will be the overwhelming people in positions of power, a youth that is quite pro west, far more liberal than the ruling class now. Again contain, sanction if you have to, but its stupid to attack them especially considering they are not stupid enough to attack anyone themselves, just like Pakistan which is about the only really truly worrisome country because they have such a significant insurgent and growing extremist presence there which if they got a hold of the nuclear arsenal would be instant reason for the west to invade or attack.

The real irony of Iran is that's its people have always been incredibly pro western (and frankly despise Arabs as being beneath them), it's only the incredible stupidity of the US that has stopped Iran from being the beacon of western democracy that the US would like in the region

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

The real irony of Iran is that's its people have always been incredibly pro western (and frankly despise Arabs as being beneath them), it's only the incredible stupidity of the US that has stopped Iran from being the beacon of western democracy that the US would like in the region

Demographically, they are at a real crossroads right now as well. If there was ever a time to use the carrot and not the stick, it's now. At least one branch of their government is loaded with moderates and can come into play when it comes time to replace the religious branch.

[direwolf]

More awesome poll numbers for the GOP.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/17/politi...oll/index.html

House Speaker Paul Ryan is the least popular person to hold that job in a very long time, according to a new poll conducted by the Pew Research Center.

A majority -- 54% -- disapprove of how the Wisconsin Republican is leading the House. Just 29% approve. Those numbers compare poorly to other Speakers -- Democratic and Republican -- in April of their first year in power.

"He's being punished by Republicans for not being able to pull together the GOP to pass the [American Health Care Act]," explained Neil Newhouse, a prominent Republican pollster. "It seems he's shouldering the blame rather than Trump."

[Senator Clay Davis]

I mean obviously not shocking to most of us, what will be shocking is if he still has an audience after outright admitting to being a fraud.



http://www.mystatesman.com/news/stat...Cd5SOPgP3A34J/