Only read it a few times but what is with Brouwer getting more ice time e than Ferlund ?
Ferlund has been a beast. What has Brouwer done for this team this year? Anybody? Seriously .....Glen better make improvements to ice time with game 3 ....along with inserting some more speed and talent .
Lazar, Freddie and Hathaway need to be in for slower less talent scrubs like Bouma Stajan and Chia pet.
With a clearer head this morning I still like our chances back in the Saddledome. It's not like we're getting dominated by any stretch. A couple of bad penalties, a couple bad bounces and a couple softies by Elliott (and a zebra screw job) and yet we were still in both games within the last few minutes. Clean those things up and these aholes are 100% beatable. I look forward to breaking our curse, by extending their game 7 at home curse.
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Disagree we've been the better team in either game but could have been good enough to come home with a split. Elliott saved what could have been a blowout in game 1. Hope we can use last change to get some small advantage at home because I agree with other poster that we have too many soft players for the ducks. Love my team but this series shows we still have some changes to make.
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Yeah I have read a lot of "we were better in game 1" stuff as well....im wondering by what measure is that?
Flames were outshot, out-chanced, gave up 2 on the PP and only got 1, were destroyed in the faceoff dep't, and most certainly were the weaker team mentally. If not for a heroic effort from Elliott that game was a 4 or 5 goal blow out.
People made fun of "old man" Burke when he stated the team needs to get bigger and tougher. Even I thought he may be off on that thought as the game has changed so much the last 5 years or so, but the truth is...he is/was right.
The Ducks are bigger, meaner, smarter and deeper than the Flames.......its just by how much? Not a whole lot IMO but enough to make difference.
Calgary may have a slight edge in speed but that's about it the way things stand right now
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Heads up guys! We have a chance still and played 2 good games. We were a fluke goal, some iffy reffing and a few undisciplined penalties away from being up 2 0 on the 5 time (consecutive) pacific division champion ducks.
At the start of this year we would all agree we are still technically rebuilding. Now we are playing good hockey, but finding a way to lose in the playoffs. This series isnt over and we have a lot to be proud of, even more to look forward to in the upcoming seasons!
Cheer up and get behind the team. Game 3 has yet to be played and its at our rink. Some of you are acting like its the end of the world. Its not even the end of our season.
Its early and totally unecessary to nag about brouwer, refs, hamilton, brodie, gulutzan, elliott, bouma etc. We went on a huge winning streak and are blessed to just be in the playoffs. We arent cup contenders. We are a rebuilding team that squeeked into the playoffs after a bad start and are now developing our young core in the playoffs.
What is a fan? Support your team.
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With a clearer head this morning I still like our chances back in the Saddledome. It's not like we're getting dominated by any stretch. A couple of bad penalties, a couple bad bounces and a couple softies by Elliott (and a zebra screw job) and yet we were still in both games within the last few minutes. Clean those things up and these aholes are 100% beatable. I look forward to breaking our curse, by extending their game 7 at home curse.
Yeah I have read a lot of "we were better in game 1" stuff as well....im wondering by what measure is that?
Flames were outshot, out-chanced, gave up 2 on the PP and only got 1, were destroyed in the faceoff dep't, and most certainly were the weaker team mentally. If not for a heroic effort from Elliott that game was a 4 or 5 goal blow out.
People made fun of "old man" Burke when he stated the team needs to get bigger and tougher. Even I thought he may be off on that thought as the game has changed so much the last 5 years or so, but the truth is...he is/was right.
The Ducks are bigger, meaner, smarter and deeper than the Flames.......its just by how much? Not a whole lot IMO but enough to make difference.
Calgary may have a slight edge in speed but that's about it the way things stand right now
My concern is that the Flames try to compensate in the off-season by signing and trading for more players like Brouwer, who has probably been the worst Flames forward these playoffs.
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Toews was instrumental as a leader in 2 of those cups a 6'3 center who the team built around him just as much as Kane and their 2 star dman . And Toews regression is why the Hawks are falting so enough with your nonsense, Gaudreau has been invisible this series . You build a team from the back out at the very least from Center Ice. And Gaudreau is not on Kane's level either . Toews Kane and Keith all have won the Conn Smythe not just Kane.
Only read it a few times but what is with Brouwer getting more ice time e than Ferlund ?
Ferlund has been a beast. What has Brouwer done for this team this year? Anybody? Seriously .....Glen better make improvements to ice time with game 3 ....along with inserting some more speed and talent .
Lazar, Freddie and Hathaway need to be in for slower less talent scrubs like Bouma Stajan and Chia pet.
I don't know why Brouwer is getting all these minutes and PP time, Ferland should be on the PP and getting the minutes Brower is getting. Brower got 16+ minutes and PP time in game 2 and Ferland got 11+ mintues and little PP time(I may be wrong, he may have gotten nothing) in game 2, it should be the exact opposite.
I was really never sold on Gulutzan and am still not sold in Gulutzan but he really needs to mange his lines better and mange his players times better.
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My concern is that the Flames try to compensate in the off-season by signing and trading for more players like Brouwer, who has probably been the worst Flames forward this season.
In 2016-17:
Backlund
Gaudreau
Tkachuk
Monahan
Frolik
Versteeg
Bennett
Chiasson
Stajan
Lazar
F. Hamilton
Shinkaruk
Bouma
Brouwer
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My concern is that the Flames try to compensate in the off-season by signing and trading for more players like Brouwer, who has probably been the worst Flames forward these playoffs.
I have the same concerns but after seeing Brouwer this season, hopefully they stay away from players like him.
The Flames to get bigger and stronger but they need players that are both strong and skilled(hate to say it but players like Getzlaf, just younger.)
The Flames backs are against the wall here, they can not lose games 3 or 4, they need to go 2-0(not a 1-1 split), to have any chance. I have heard the saying "Good teams find a way to win", if the Flames are a good team, they will find a way.
I'd put Bennett in the tier below Chiasson and Stajan, he really wasn't good this year. How much of that was being stapled to Brouwer, I don't know but I expected a lot more from him.
Fortunately he's been good in the playoffs.
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Some clarification on the disallowed goal from a Francis article..
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Seeking clarification on the call, NHL senior VP Hockey Operations, Mike Murphy, told Postmedia how it went down.
“We reviewed the play because the puck went into the net,” said Murphy in an email.
“We checked to make sure the net was on, which it was. The refs, however, informed us that they had NO GOAL on the ice because (Anaheim goalie John) Gibson was bumped in the crease and unable to play his position. That is their call and the play is not reviewable, so their call on the ice rules.”
I don't know why Brouwer is getting all these minutes and PP time, Ferland should be on the PP and getting the minutes Brower is getting. Brower got 16+ minutes and PP time in game 2 and Ferland got 11+ mintues and little PP time(I may be wrong, he may have gotten nothing) in game 2, it should be the exact opposite.
I was really never sold on Gulutzan and am still not sold in Gulutzan but he really needs to mange his lines better and mange his players times better.
On record in every instance of disliking Brouwer signing, but had solid positioning creating distractions in front on Monahan goal.
On record in every instance of disliking Brouwer signing, but had solid positioning creating distractions in front on Monahan goal.
He is a ok player but he is not a $4.5 Million player, if he was signed at $3 million, than you have to be fine with way he is playing. He was bought in to be that playoff warrior type player but so far he has not been that but he has not been all that bad either but he is not good enough to get the minutes and pp time he is getting.
I'd put Bennett in the tier below Chiasson and Stajan, he really wasn't good this year. How much of that was being stapled to Brouwer, I don't know but I expected a lot more from him.
Fortunately he's been good in the playoffs.
That's why I put him ahead of them
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So, then why would they review the goal to begin with? Either way the faceoff would be outside the Anaheim zone if either the Flames knocked the net off, or impeded Gibson from making the save.
Refs said Toronto made the call, Toronto said refs made the call. Bush league.
Bad call was made and they are saving face, or making a poor attempt to.
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