American Politics Thread: Orange is the new POTUS

[Texas Flames Fan]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Here's a story I found pretty interesting.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...nezuela-214973

Comparing a Socialist to a Capitalist is like comparing an apple to an orange. If anything is to be taken from that article it's that Socialism destroys countries

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Texas Flames Fan

Seems pretty clear to me. Dems are butt hurt they lost the election and now are opposing everything Trump does without reason. Although it's good to see some Dems finally coming over. I have a feeling this trickle effect will turn into a mass exodus from Pelosi, Schumer and the establishment democrats once more spying details emerge.

You actually remind me a lot of Donny J Littlehands, when I read your words

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Texas Flames Fan

Seems pretty clear to me. Dems are butt hurt they lost the election and now are opposing everything Trump does without reason. Although it's good to see some Dems finally coming over. I have a feeling this trickle effect will turn into a mass exodus from Pelosi, Schumer and the establishment democrats once more spying details emerge.

The point
Your head

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

But the Neo-Liberals don't hold any of your beliefs either, if anything they are more off base. They want more government oversight, more taxes and undermine the constitution to top it off.

Yeah, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

[RougeUnderoos]

I wonder how long this "Democrats are just mad they lost the election" thing will go on. Going by the dwindling number of people who actually support the guy I'd think it wouldn't be forever, but you know The Donald will never give it up.

"Yes, I was impeached by my own party, but that's just because they were embarrassed by the election, which I won very, very easily".

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Texas Flames Fan

Comparing a Socialist to a Capitalist is like comparing an apple to an orange. If anything is to be taken from that article it's that Socialism destroys countries

Yeah, those Scandinavian countries are real hellholes.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

I wonder how long this "Democrats are just mad they lost the election" thing will go on. Going by the dwindling number of people who actually support the guy I'd think it wouldn't be forever, but you know The Donald will never give it up.

"Yes, I was impeached by my own party, but that's just because they were embarrassed by the election, which I won very, very easily".

For as long as it plays to the base. And he won't get impeached until the midterms. Even the "mavericks" like Big Talk McCain fall in line when it comes to vote time.

[Texas Flames Fan]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Yeah, those Scandinavian countries are real hellholes.

Mixed economies can work if they stay true to their principles. The closer you get to communism the closer you become a "hellhole"

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Texas Flames Fan

Mixed economies can work if they stay true to their principles. The closer you get to communism the closer you become a "hellhole"

How have you not won a Darwin Award yet?

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Texas Flames Fan

Mixed economies can work if they stay true to their principles. The closer you get to communism the closer you become a "hellhole"

Calling those countries mixed economies is disingenuous. They are for all intents and purposes socialist in the modern sense of the word. Yes they do allow private industry but they're incredibly pro-union, have high taxes, operate as welfare states, emphasize state ownership of natural resources, and generally put collectivism ahead of individualism.

[Texas Flames Fan]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Calling those countries mixed economies is disingenuous. They are for all intents and purposes socialist in the modern sense of the word. Yes they do allow private industry but they're incredibly pro-union, have high taxes, operate as welfare states, emphasize state ownership of natural resources, and generally put collectivism ahead of individualism.

And they have the same population as Alberta.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Originally Posted by Texas Flames Fan

Is no one on this thread going to talk about the real elephant in the room (Mrs Rice)? I would like to hear some liberal thoughts on a scandal greater than watergate. Someone mentioned in a previous post "death by a thousand cuts" - I see this is exactly what is happening but only to the previous administration, the clintons and the democrats. This is going to be good - looking forward to congressional hearings.

Sure I have some Troll food for you...

She asked for the names of certain individuals to be released...a request which would need to be approved by the NSA.

So the fact you are calling this 'The Elephant in the Room that is greater than Watergate' leads me to believe you are stoned or just really intellectually lazy...

[wittynickname]

Just thought I'd point this information out again:

“A man with a conviction is a hard man to change,” Festinger, Henry Riecken, and Stanley Schacter wrote in When Prophecy Fails, their 1957 book about this study. “Tell him you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point … Suppose that he is presented with evidence, unequivocal and undeniable evidence, that his belief is wrong: what will happen? The individual will frequently emerge, not only unshaken, but even more convinced of the truth of his beliefs than ever before.”

This doubling down in the face of conflicting evidence is a way of reducing the discomfort of dissonance, and is part of a set of behaviors known in the psychology literature as “motivated reasoning.” Motivated reasoning is how people convince themselves or remain convinced of what they want to believe—they seek out agreeable information and learn it more easily; and they avoid, ignore, devalue, forget, or argue against information that contradicts their beliefs.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...r-mind/519093/

The ignore feature is your friend.

[wwkayaker]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Here's a story I found pretty interesting.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...nezuela-214973

That was an interesting read. The link to an article about confirmation bias (contained within the article) was quite interesting as well.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

The ignore feature is your friend.

But only if you make sure to tell everybody that you ignored someone afterwards.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

I sometimes wonder about the Russians and whether they will be trying the same tactics of discombobulating discussions and what-not when the next Canadian election comes around.

[wwkayaker]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Just thought I'd point this information out again:



https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...r-mind/519093/

The ignore feature is your friend.

Couple that info with confirmation bias and changing minds only becomes more challenging.

[driveway]

'Mainstream' Media:
"While gathering intelligence on Russian operatives and assets, US Intelligence community discovers Trump campaign associates communicating regularly with the Russians."

Right-Wing Media:
"Obama spied on Trump!"

Trump:
"FORE!"

[KevanGuy]

Originally Posted by Texas Flames Fan

What about.... Bill O'Reilly!

What about....Susan Rice!

[Thor]

Bengazi!