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View Poll Results: Do you like the Lazar trade to Calgary?
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Love it
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Like it
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neutral
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29.48% |
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Don't like it
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Hate it
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03-01-2017, 04:16 PM
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#501
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All I can get
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Well Stone is a UFA so I guess if they sign him first
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Treliving on Fan960 right now talking about Stone.
Feels pretty confident the Flames are Stone's destination of choice (family reasons).
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03-01-2017, 04:16 PM
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#502
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
If they sign and protect Stone then they can only protect 4 forwards, because they aren't exposing any of Gio, Brodie or Dougie Hamilton.
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Oh wow, I thought it was 7+3 or 6+4. Then it's a no brainer.
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03-01-2017, 04:17 PM
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#503
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Franchise Player
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I really think the Flames are one of the best positioned teams for the expansion draft...it won't be a major blow
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03-01-2017, 04:17 PM
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#504
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Treliving on Fan960 right now talking about Stone.
Feels pretty confident the Flames are Stone's destination of choice (family reasons).
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Stone wants to live here post-career for sure. Now he can play it out.
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03-01-2017, 04:18 PM
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#505
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by dino7c
I really think the Flames are one of the best positioned teams for the expansion draft...it won't be a major blow
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Who are the best players likely to be exposed?
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03-01-2017, 04:19 PM
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#506
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary Satellite Community
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I am ok with the trade overall. However, I am not so worried about losing a 2nd round "pick" I am more worried about the loss of it as a currency that could be used during the draft to pick up a potential player for our roster for next season.
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03-01-2017, 04:19 PM
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#507
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
Yea, you've said that over and over and over.
Treliving is speaking at length right now as to the amount of time and resources they've spent scouting him and the attributes he has that they feel show he has room to grow into a very valuable character player.
I'll take their word over your endlessly pessimistic view any time, especially when your hyperbolic take is based on absolutely over-valuing a low percentage draft pick.
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Super. No need to agree with me.
Same scouts that haven't been able to produce one NHL'er outside of the top 10 yet? Including two first rounders?
Yeah they're flawless.
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03-01-2017, 04:20 PM
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#508
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Lazar is a potential player for the Flames roster next year....
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03-01-2017, 04:20 PM
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#509
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by polak
Super. No need to agree with me.
Same scouts that haven't been able to produce one NHL'er outside of the top 10 yet? Including two first rounders?
Yeah they're flawless.
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exactly, so whats the big deal about the pick
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03-01-2017, 04:21 PM
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#510
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Franchise Player
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Lazar will be in the FLAMES lineup...like it or not
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03-01-2017, 04:22 PM
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#511
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polak
Same scouts that haven't been able to produce one NHL'er outside of the top 10 yet? Including two first rounders?
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Well that's not true.
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03-01-2017, 04:23 PM
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#512
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by dino7c
exactly, so whats the big deal about the pick
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lol, beat me to it. (having no faith in their opinion on Lazar but blindly believing they'll pick a Subban / Bergeron)
As usual, Polak just doing everything he can to be needlessly pessimistic and negative.
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03-01-2017, 04:23 PM
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#513
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary Satellite Community
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Trading a vet for a 2nd is better than losing him for nothing
Trading a 2nd for a 21 year old that has already surpassed the average 2nd rounder isn't much of a risk
the numbers don't lie...opinion is one thing
odds favor the Flames there is no debate
maybe the Sens hit a homerun, very unlikely
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Agreed with the first part. However if the Sens turn that pick into currency to pick up a legit NHLer aka Dougie Hamilton trade, then it hurts a bit more if it ends up taking us out of the running for someone we would want.
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03-01-2017, 04:23 PM
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#514
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polak
Who are the best players likely to be exposed?
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Brouwer. Bouma. Stajan. Spoon. Kulak. Culkin.
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03-01-2017, 04:27 PM
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#515
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
lol, beat me to it. (having no faith in their opinion on Lazar but blindly believing they'll pick a Subban / Bergeron)
As usual, Polak just doing everything he can to be needlessly pessimistic and negative.
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Picking at the draft gives them the benefit of consensus rankings. If they went way off the board in the 2nd round I'd probably think it was dumb too.
Jesus, I don't like a trade so I'm needlessly negative? I loved the Stone trade. Still do. Not everyone is going to convince themselves that every move the Flames make is a good one.
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03-01-2017, 04:27 PM
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#516
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Brouwer. Bouma. Stajan. Spoon. Kulak. Culkin.
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With a list like that, McPhee would probably be wise to just sign Engelland early in lieu of his expansion selection.
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03-01-2017, 04:27 PM
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#517
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Brouwer. Bouma. Stajan. Spoon. Kulak. Culkin.
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Poirier, Shinkaruk, Klimchuk would be some others
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03-01-2017, 04:29 PM
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#518
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by polak
...Jesus, I don't like a trade so I'm needlessly negative?...
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I think it has to do with the fact that more often than not you are needlessly—and bombastically—negative.
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03-01-2017, 04:29 PM
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#519
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
Poirier, Shinkaruk, Klimchuk would be some others
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Not Klimchuk. He's only a second-year pro.
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03-01-2017, 04:29 PM
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#520
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polak
Picking at the draft gives them the benefit of consensus rankings. If they went way off the board in the 2nd round I'd probably think it was dumb too.
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This is a terrible draft, and the "consensus rankings" will mean very little when they get to the 50s +. Just another reason why that 2nd is even more of a crapshoot.
On the reverse, we're talking about a known commodity who they've scouted at the NHL level for some time.
You can not like it all you want. It's the flawed, hyperbolic reasoning and the incessant going on and on about it that the typical Polak negative nonsense.
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