Fox News is what it is, but there's a significant difference between them and Breitbart, etc. Their opinion pieces are nutty, and they are selective in what they report, but I think there as an attempt at some journalist standards.
Re: Trump and the nuclear arsenal, I highly recommend Dan carlin's latest Hardcore History podcast. It is called "The Destroyer of Worlds" and it is about how the invention of the nuclear bomb dramatically changed global political strategy and diplomacy from WW2 to today.
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The Trump administration has enlisted senior members of the intelligence community and Congress in efforts to counter news stories about Trump associates’ ties to Russia, a politically charged issue that has been under investigation by the FBI as well as lawmakers now defending the White House.
Acting at the behest of the White House, the officials made calls to news organizations last week in attempts to challenge stories about alleged contacts between members of President Trump’s campaign team and Russian intelligence operatives, U.S. officials said.
The calls were orchestrated by the White House after unsuccessful attempts by the administration to get senior FBI officials to speak with news organizations and dispute the accuracy of stories on the alleged contacts with Russia.
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The effort also involved senior lawmakers with access to classified intelligence about Russia, including Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) and Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), the chairmen of the Senate and House intelligence committees. A spokesman for Nunes said that he had already begun speaking to reporters to challenge the story and then “at the request of a White House communications aide, Chairman Nunes then spoke to an additional reporter and delivered the same message.”
Fox News is what it is, but there's a significant difference between them and Breitbart, etc. Their opinion pieces are nutty, and they are selective in what they report, but I think there as an attempt at some journalist standards.
Quite a few Trump supporters consider Fox News to be Left Wing propaganda.
SIAP - but a guy whom i have come around on is David Frum...
loathed the man during the Bush admin...
not sure if that means he's changed or that the needle has moved further to the right, where a guy like Frum now seems 'reasonable'
scary times
The bolded part is your answer. Frum is still a loon, he just seems to be the most reasonable loon in the flock as a result of the extremism from the rest.
Crazy times we live in when Fox is looked at as a voice of reason.
I give them full props for standing up for their competitors today though. I think they realize that if some leftist wing nut came to power, the shoe would easily be on the other foot.
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Breitbart News Network, the far-right media outlet that heralded President Trump’s rise and was once led by his top White House strategist, is owned in part by a wealthy conservative family that poured millions into propelling Trump into office, the company’s chief executive acknowledged Friday.
The site’s financial backing from the Mercers further cements the family’s status as some of the most influential financiers of the Trump era. The news comes as Breitbart has enjoyed a higher profile within the White House press corps.
The Mercers’ investment in Breitbart has been previously reported by The Washington Post and other news outlets, but the family’s role as partial owners of the organization has never been officially confirmed. Larry Solov, Breitbart’s president and CEO, shared the company’s ownership information with a panel of congressional journalists as part of a process to get Capitol Hill press credentials for Breitbart reporters.
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Solov also said that the site’s former executive chairman, White House senior strategist Stephen K. Bannon, resigned from the company in a phone call after the election.
But Solov said he could not provide documentation of Bannon’s separation from Breitbart.
Neither White House officials nor a spokeswoman for Breitbart and the Mercers returned requests for comment.
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On Friday, Solov said Bannon currently has no editorial or financial relationship with Breitbart.
But the committee asked Solov to provide a document or statement from Bannon attesting to his separation from the company.
“We’re trying to help get you credentials,” said Billy House of Bloomberg News, chairman of the committee. But House added: “We’re just a little concerned — and I’m not saying this is the case — but what you’re telling us could also be a way to evade actually having Mr. Bannon state that he is no longer with Breitbart.”
Solov said he could not agree to the committee’s request.
“I can only do what I can do. I don’t have control over Mr. #Bannon,” Solov said.
SIAP - but a guy whom i have come around on is David Frum...
loathed the man during the Bush admin...
not sure if that means he's changed or that the needle has moved further to the right, where a guy like Frum now seems 'reasonable'
scary times
I think the important narrative is that the majority of Americans have a problem with Trump and what he's doing not because the right won, but because he's a dangerous, unqualified, (crazy, mentally ill, personality disorder... not sure what's appropriate or inoffensive), embarrassing person to run the country. There's going to be right vs left politics, but I don't think it's the time for all the liberals and all the conservatives to dig into their side. It's time for the 70% of Americans to realize there are differences, but what Trump is doing is very wrong.
I think the important narrative is that the majority of Americans have a problem with Trump and what he's doing not because the right won, but because he's a dangerous, unqualified, (crazy, mentally ill, personality disorder... not sure what's appropriate or inoffensive), embarrassing person to run the country. There's going to be right vs left politics, but I don't think it's the time for all the liberals and all the conservatives to dig into their side. It's time for the 70% of Americans to realize there are differences, but what Trump is doing is very wrong.
couldn't agree more... but the partisan politics have become so divisive that there are folks on the right that want to stick it to the liberals, regardless of the damage it does...
the proverbial cutting off their nose to spite their face...
i get some of the dislike of Obama...but its borderline maniacal for some on the right...now to be far, there are many on the left that feel the same way about Trump...
however, Obama policies were no where near as bat##### crazy as Trump's... I mean, Alex F'n Jones is considered as a "confidant"...
couldn't agree more... but the partisan politics have become so divisive that there are folks on the right that want to stick it to the liberals, regardless of the damage it does...
the proverbial cutting off their nose to spite their face...
i get some of the dislike of Obama...but its borderline maniacal for some on the right...now to be far, there are many on the left that feel the same way about Trump...
however, Obama policies were no where near as bat##### crazy as Trump's... I mean, Alex F'n Jones is considered as a "confidant"...
its mind boggling...
The issue for me with the right is that the main complaints about Obama were pushing through the ACA--which provided millions with healthcare (it's very far from perfect, but it's better than before the ACA)--they take issue with the Obama administration pushing for more protection for marginalized Americans, pushing to close private prisons, pushing to protect our environment and working toward more renewable energy.
If they were complaining about how atrocious the drone program is, I'd be with them. If they were complaining about his record of deporting immigrants, I'd be with them. If they were complaining about his record with regard to whistleblowers, I'd be with them. There are plenty of valid concerns about Obama's legacy, but their complaints aren't on that list. The things they're complaining about are policies that have helped millions of people.
Trump has not yet made any policy decisions that look to be aimed at improving life for anyone in America, save for the people in America who already have enough money that life is pretty damn luxurious anyway.
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Crazy times we live in when Fox is looked at as a voice of reason.
I give them full props for standing up for their competitors today though. I think they realize that if some leftist wing nut came to power, the shoe would easily be on the other foot.
Sorry, no, Fox is absolutely horrible. They have been doing literally fake news especially about immigration for years now, and are still at it full steam. They're one of the biggest reasons why constant public lying is so normalized in conservative circles.
Here's a terrible very recent example, using a fake "Swedish national security expert" to prop up their blatantly racist narrative about immigration Sweden. They're not fact checking Trump, they're providing support for his lies.
(Dagens Nyheter is the biggest newspapers in Sweden.)
I think the connection between Fox news claiming that muslims have turned whole cities in Europe into "no whites zones", and Trumps attempts at banning Muslims in the US. Fox news is one of the main reasons why fascist attitudes are on the rise in the US.
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On another topic; since people have been talking about cancelling their plans to visit the US, in the travel business it's now known as "the Trump Slump."
Thus, the prestigious Travel Weekly magazine (as close to an “official” travel publication as they come) has set the decline in foreign tourism at 6.8%. And the fall-off is not limited to Muslim travelers, but also extends to all incoming foreign tourists.
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On the web, flight searches for trips heading to the U.S. out of all international locations was recently down by 17%.
A drop of that magnitude, if continued, would reduce the value of foreign travel within the U.S. by billions of dollars. And the number of jobs supported by foreign tourists and their expenditures in the United States—and thus lost—would easily exceed hundreds of thousands of workers in hotels, restaurants, transportation, stores, tour operations, travel agencies, and the like.
The following part I think was especially interesting. While the number in itself is not necessarily such a big deal, business travel obviously has an impact on economy that goes way beoynd the money the travellers themselves bring. I also diddn't expect business travel to be effected much, at least not immediately like that.
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According to the Global Business Travel Association, in only a single week following announcement of the ban against certain foreign tourists, the activity of business travel declined by nearly $185 million.
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couldn't agree more... but the partisan politics have become so divisive that there are folks on the right that want to stick it to the liberals, regardless of the damage it does...
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