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Old 02-23-2017, 01:26 PM   #181
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It's not just Leslie who is reporting this. Don't forget about the Guy in Pub.
Do not disparage Guy in Pub... It was Man at lunch on phone that was the source.
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Guy in pub is drunk and thus more likely to spill the beans. More information.
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He actually admits to altering the competitive balance of a playoff game by sticking it to Shoenfeld and the Devils. A head coach clapping does not warrant an unsportsmanlike penalty regardless of what happened in the last game. Without throwing his fraternity under the bus in plain words he's essentially telling us that yes the Wideman Effect is real.
To be fair, his sticking it to Shoenfeld actually came the following season if I'm reading that correctly.
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:51 AM   #187
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Friedman thinks there is a market for Wideman:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/960/boomer-m...arket-wideman/

starts at the 15:40 mark

thinks the Wideman effect could be an issue but there is always market for veteran D
also thinks it depends on how much salary the Flames are willing to retain and what the Flames would want in return
end of the day teams like depth especially if they think they have a chance to win it
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Friedman thinks there is a market for Wideman:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/960/boomer-m...arket-wideman/

starts at the 15:40 mark

thinks the Wideman effect could be an issue but there is always market for veteran D
also thinks it depends on how much salary the Flames are willing to retain and what the Flames would want in return
end of the day teams like depth especially if they think they have a chance to win it
I think Florida would be a good fit. Tons of cap space and a power play that isn't great. He could be a good fit for them as he would be a very cheap pick up for a team that might not want to pay top dollar for a rental player
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If the Flames are willing to retain some salary, I think there could definitely be a market, especially as the gun gets closer to the trade deadline.
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No fan of Wideman here, but is there a team in the league that needs Defense depth more than the Flames?

If trading Wideman requires retaining salary and extracting very little return, is there really a point? Right now, we have a guy who was on an AHL contract two weeks ago playing regular minutes on bottom pairing and that is with everyone healthy.
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I think Florida would be a good fit. Tons of cap space and a power play that isn't great. He could be a good fit for them as he would be a very cheap pick up for a team that might not want to pay top dollar for a rental player
Think how much money they would save on flights since they are already in Florida. Easily now able to retain @ 50% and they can throw in a Greyhound ticket.
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Old 02-24-2017, 10:20 AM   #192
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No fan of Wideman here, but is there a team in the league that needs Defense depth more than the Flames?

If trading Wideman requires retaining salary and extracting very little return, is there really a point? Right now, we have a guy who was on an AHL contract two weeks ago playing regular minutes on bottom pairing and that is with everyone healthy.
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If platooned as a 6/7 + PP guy I think he could have value to a team that has a solid top 4 to eat PK and defensive zone time.
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No fan of Wideman here, but is there a team in the league that needs Defense depth more than the Flames?

If trading Wideman requires retaining salary and extracting very little return, is there really a point? Right now, we have a guy who was on an AHL contract two weeks ago playing regular minutes on bottom pairing and that is with everyone healthy.
We would still have Jokipakka as depth on the left side and the potential to move Brodie to the right side if an injury happens. Plus I guess Wotherspoon and Kulak have enough NHL experience to be considered legitimate depth at this point
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No fan of Wideman here, but is there a team in the league that needs Defense depth more than the Flames?

If trading Wideman requires retaining salary and extracting very little return, is there really a point? Right now, we have a guy who was on an AHL contract two weeks ago playing regular minutes on bottom pairing and that is with everyone healthy.
You always need defensive depth going into the playoffs. But from #4 down, they have:

Stone
Engelland
Bartkowski
Jokipakka
Kulak
Wotherspoon

9 guys with NHL experience. Should be more than enough for this year.
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Are we sure the Flames aren't the target, if one exists, and not specifically Wideman? It was the Flames who challenged the 20 games. I'd suggest it's reasonable to assume the jersey is the target, if any exists.
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Yeah, little doubt Jokiipakka, Kulak and Wotherspoon can all be as ineffective as Wideman. Playoff teams need depth but the ones looking at the long post season runs are the teams that'll need to go eight players deep on defence, not the Flames.
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I think Florida would be a good fit. Tons of cap space and a power play that isn't great. He could be a good fit for them as he would be a very cheap pick up for a team that might not want to pay top dollar for a rental player
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Yeah, little doubt Jokiipakka, Kulak and Wotherspoon can all be as ineffective as Wideman. Playoff teams need depth but the ones looking at the long post season runs are the teams that'll need to go eight players deep on defence, not the Flames.
So are you suggesting Wideman is better than the players mentioned? Or that other teams don't have similar or better depth players to draw from?
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So are you suggesting Wideman is better than the players mentioned? Or that other teams don't have similar or better depth players to draw from?
I'm not the person who was asked, but I would point out that (for example) Pittsburgh has four defencemen on IR right now, which means they've already drawn on all their NHL-ready depth. So, no, not all teams have similar or better depth players available to them at the moment.
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