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Old 02-18-2017, 12:25 AM   #1681
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How much value? LA has Stanley Cups because of those 2.
Do you think Philadelphia would have won two Stanley Cups if they'd kept them?
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Old 02-18-2017, 12:26 AM   #1682
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Don't forget Carter went to CLB first. Then met up with Richards a year or two after their departure from PHI.
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Old 02-18-2017, 12:52 AM   #1683
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How much value? LA has Stanley Cups because of those 2.


https://www.google.ca/amp/s/syndicat...?client=safari

So I'd say receiving 4 top players was pretty good!
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Old 02-18-2017, 03:59 AM   #1684
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Don't forget Carter went to CLB first. Then met up with Richards a year or two after their departure from PHI.
He was traded to LA at the deadline after playing only 39 games in Columbus. That was the year LA won their first Cup (and two years after Philly went to the Finals with Carter and Richards).
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Old 02-18-2017, 04:13 AM   #1685
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Watching Iginla again today - he is nowhere near as slow as some would have you believe. The Avs are hot garbage, but I'll call it right now - if he comes here prior to the deadline, or signs in the off-season (he has another year in him) - he's going to perform.
What would be Iginla's value in a trade? He couldn't be worth much more than a mid-round pick, could he?

Personally I don't see many reasons not to pick him up if it's on the cheap. Even in the twilight of his career he would be as good an option on the RW as we have in the entire system.
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Old 02-18-2017, 08:00 AM   #1686
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To me, Iginla at this stage is useless to any Stanley Cup contender. He's slow and drifts a lot. Neither here nor there. I'm sure he can help a team needing some so-called leadership, but as a player, he's forth line material. If Sakic got a 4th rounder for him it'd be an overpayment IMO.
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Old 02-18-2017, 08:09 AM   #1687
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Well depends what we traded him for.

Backlund is good, but if he's 1 of your 3 best players you aren't making the playoffs IMO.

People aren't saying give Bennett away, but a team always needs to be looking to improve and properly evaluate there players.
If Backlund is one of your 3 best players you're probably a borderline playoff team (like the Flames currently are with Backlund as the leading point getter). If Backlund is one of your 3 best centers that's a totally different situation.
Love Bennett, love Gaudreau, but Barkov is better than either one of them.
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To me, Iginla at this stage is useless to any Stanley Cup contender. He's slow and drifts a lot. Neither here nor there. I'm sure he can help a team needing some so-called leadership, but as a player, he's forth line material. If Sakic got a 4th rounder for him it'd be an overpayment IMO.
I'd argue that you haven't been watching him play. I've watched his last 6 games now (plus the ones Vs Calgary - which I know isn't a crazy amount), calling him slow is simply untrue. The entire Avs team is a disaster, and its impacting all of their play. Iggy has some game left in him in my opinion, and when he gets away from the Avs, it'll show.
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Old 02-18-2017, 08:33 AM   #1689
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I just had a look at Sharp thinking he may be a cheap acquisition and it would be interesting to reunite some more of the original Blackhawks...but man has he fallen off a cliff. Now 35 years old and it's not just that he only has 13 points in 33 games, but he is also -17 including -8 I the last 5 games.

Has anyone here seen much of him lately? I suspect he will get dealt at the deadline, but I don't think the receiving team will be that happy...
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:24 AM   #1690
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Can't trade Johnny. He just bought an expensive condo.
My understanding is that its rented through his agent. I know the previous owner who sold it to someone who was going to use it as a rental.

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Old 02-18-2017, 10:03 AM   #1691
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Canes place Ty Rattie on waivers

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Old 02-18-2017, 10:13 AM   #1692
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Do you think Philadelphia would have won two Stanley Cups if they'd kept them?
We can't know.

But we do know this:

1) they haven't won any without them, and

2) the last time they went to the cup finals was with them

so what exactly is your point?
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Old 02-18-2017, 10:39 AM   #1693
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I wonder if detroit would do a Bennett for Mantha.
Flames wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole

Centres > Wingers

Bennett's upside > Mantha's upside.

Yuck
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Does Rattie finally get reunited with Baertschi??

Any interest from our perspective??

Healthy scratch 12 of 17 is pretty brutal, kinda seems like we have that already in F. Hamilton but Rattie's style is more of a skilled type game.
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Old 02-18-2017, 10:43 AM   #1695
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Flames wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole

Centres > Wingers

Bennett's upside > Mantha's upside.

Yuck
More like Larkin for Bennett.

Both having off years and value is similar.

For the record in no way do I want us to trade Bennett, I think he's a more dimensional Backlund when he matures and we need to give him time.
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People will hate this but I am all for trading Gaudreau he is not the player to build a team around. I would Much rather being spending that salary on a 2 way Center.
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Why It's true he makes a good complimentary piece but he is not a centerpiece you build a core around. He has shown this year he cannot take charge and lead the team.
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Gaudreau for Marner, reunite Marner and Tkachuck.
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Johnny Hockey
Sam Bennett

For

Aleksander Barkov
Reilly Smith
1st Round pick

Barkov
Monahan
Backlund

As you Centers

How is going to play the wing? You figure that one out.
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Barkov is good as Johnny and Reilly Smith is a young players who has hit 50 points and the 1st round pick is good.

You can add from Panthers side but that is close in value.


Johnny Hockey
Sam Bennett

For

Aleksander Barkov
Reilly Smith
Alex Petrovic

If this is the offer, than you pull it.
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Cammalleri is a healthy scratch for NJ today. 30 points in 51 games, currently in a cold streak goal-wise.

I'd love Cammy back on this team if NJ retained salary. His sniping ability really is a skill that we don't have on the team.
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here come the trolls
You need to look up the definition of troll.

Someone who has a different valuation of a player from you and suggests a trade they believe makes the flames stronger is not a troll.
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Cammy has 5 points in his last 10 games. Not good, but not bad either.
I'm surprised he's a healthy scratch, even without the goals.
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here come the trolls

Those are not troll because player value is being discussed, there nothing is that indicates those are trolls but you are a troll, by saying that.
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