[Signing] UPD: Flames sign Bartkowski to 2 year 2 way deal ($612.5k AAV)

[Toonage]

Everyone stays put I think. Someone mentioned the PTO can last 2 weeks after which the roster is allowed to expand after the deadline.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by dammage79

How did Dougie and Bart fare as a pairing in Boston?

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I mean, it's worth a shot.

Originally Posted by mikephoen

If signing Bartkowski means Brodie moves back to the right side, it's like the Flames just traded a mediocre 2nd pairing defenseman for an allstar!

I'd like to see how he does with Dougie.

The hero chart is pretty good, and that was without a stud like Dougie.

I'm not suggesting this is Lidstrom/White version 2.

But if Bart is a bit better than Wideman, and Dougie elevates his play, this could be a nice pickup. If not, it helps with the Exp Draft.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Toonage

At this point even if the mistakes are the same, I'd just rather see someone else making them.

This is one of the truest posts in the entire thread.

[Geeoff]

I guess this gives them flexibility with Jokipakka. They can either not qualify him or wait until after the expansion draft to sign him.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

I guess this gives them flexibility with Jokipakka. They can either not qualify him or wait until after the expansion draft to sign him.

Yeah, it takes away all of his leverage. Before it was "You need to sign me, I will take the 10% raise". Now it's "we don't need you. If you want a job next year, you will sign a 2-way for $800k".

[Chonger]

can someone please make me a Vince McMahon gif with treviliving head for this move

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[sureLoss]

Treliving on 960 admits one of the reasons for Bartowski is the expansion draft.

They haven't signed him yet. Hoping to get a good look at him.

Wants some depth to keep their young players in Stockton playing at the right level.

They know who Matt is, obviously some familiarity with Glen, but our scouts have been watching him too.

Not advertising that Matt Bartkowski is going to save the Calgary Flames.

[TheScorpion]

Will he play tonight? Or can you, on a PTO?

[Buff]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Will he play tonight?

No. He hasn't signed a regular contract.

[FireGilbert]

Not sure why all the criticism of this possible signing. Clearly just an expansion move and kind of funny the Flames almost got Bartkowski for Iginla.

As very interesting Jokipakka went from OMG we are going to lose this guy in the expansion draft to possibly not re-signed.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

I'd like to see how he does with Dougie.

The hero chart is pretty good, and that was without a stud like Dougie.

I'm not suggesting this is Lidstrom/White version 2.

But if Bart is a bit better than Wideman, and Dougie elevates his play, this could be a nice pickup. If not, it helps with the Exp Draft.

That's a Triple Dougie and I'm sorry but I'm going to have to fine you.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by FireGilbert

Not sure why all the criticism of this possible signing. Clearly just an expansion move and kind of funny the Flames almost got Bartkowski for Iginla.

As very interesting Jokipakka went from OMG we are going to lose this guy in the expansion draft to possibly not re-signed.

reason 158 why they general fan base should never be allowed to make any hockey decision

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

That's a Triple Dougie and I'm sorry but I'm going to have to fine you.

You know why? 'Cause all the girls love it!

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by getbak

I wonder if this might be an indication that there's interest in Jokipakka on the trade market?



I don't know the full rules of in-season NHL PTOs (the only rules I can find are for AHL PTOs), but I believe he can be on a PTO for up to 2 weeks (or so), which would carry through to the trade deadline exactly two weeks from today. I believe he can't play any NHL games while on a PTO, but he can practice with the team during this time. Currently, the Flames have a full 23 man roster, so to fit Bartkowski onto the roster under a standard contract, they'd have to send someone down to Stockton. However, after the deadline, the roster limit is lifted, so he could be signed at that time without sending anyone down, even if they don't trade anyone away.

There's the answer right there.

This is a depth move to provide flexibility at the trade deadline (as well as the bonus flexibility for the expansion draft).

They waited until today to do this because they had no intention of sending anyone down to make room for him. He practices with the team for two weeks, and then the roster can expand after the deadline.

And right now, they don't know whether they are buyers or sellers (maybe both) nor do they know what deals may be available on either side.

But by adding him, if they are sellers, no problem. If not, they send him to Stockton (who could use the help).

Seems like pretty good asset management to me. The negativity around here these days is crazy

[Dion]

I think he gets that 2 way contract and plays a few games for the Flames this year. Kid can skate and would be a huge improvement over Wideman.

[Alberta_Beef]

Bartkowski is not better than Wideman

[Jay Random]

Bartkowski is a better name than Wideman.

…Yeah, aside from that I got nothin'.

[Karl]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Apparently he is better overall, according to his stats. Both conventional and advanced.

Wideman has his issues, especially with footspeed. And he hasn't been good for a month or so, though he gets criticized for plays that aren't really his fault, or are a combination of bad plays from several guys.

But he also went through a pretty decent span of games this year where he was completely adequate and perhaps even good. Even some of the biggest critics admitted it at the time (though they've forgotten now).

Big deal.

Conventional & advanced stats mean little to me if a player doesn't pass the eye test. Wideman doesn't pass the eye test anymore. At all.

Can't wait until he's no longer costing this team with his play. Didn't think that I'd reach that point with Wideman but here we are.

[Stud_McCool]

Have never really noticed Bartkowski, but does he provide some semblance of truculence?

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Stud_McCool

Have never really noticed Bartkowski, but does he provide some semblance of truculence?

1.9 hits per game over his career, so about the same amount as Engelland. Of course that doesn't mean he hits guys hard.