[Signing] UPD: Flames sign Bartkowski to 2 year 2 way deal ($612.5k AAV)

[Strange Brew]

Zero harm or risk in this PTO signing. Now the risk/reward comes when he is one of the 4 or 5 skaters on the ice, if and when that happens.

I tend to agree with earlier poster that this is indication Flames have little interest in re-signing Jokipakka or their pending UFA defensemen.

[Violator]

Originally Posted by dammage79

How did Dougie and Bart fare as a pairing in Boston?

Equally terrible from what I remember when he signed in Vancouver.He was hot dog Pooh when he played for Vancouver.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

Very unimpressed with Bartkowski in multiple viewings in Boston and Vancouver.

Found out he was a Flame due to a text from a Canucks fan. It read, "HAHAHA Bartowski couldn't even crack my horrible defense, which could be the worst in the league, bold move Treliving!"

don't think you should concern yourself with uneducated canucks fans

[dino7c]

Wideman has been playing in the top four and IMO its unlikely he plays in the NHL after this season

[Karl]

Originally Posted by Stats87

I'm very confident in saying that Bart is much worse than Wideman. The former just does it for a much cheaper price.

I seriously doubt that.

I think you're underestimating just how much Wideman has regressed over the last 2 years. I mean, you may have a point about Bartkowski being worse than Wideman last year, but Wideman has regressed even more since that point in time.

So, you may wonder then, 'well if that's the case why are they still playing Wideman? Why don't they play someone from Stockton' The only answer I can give to that is they're trying to give the old Widedog one last kick at the can in his NHL career to prove he's got any hint of something good left to give.

Originally Posted by kukkudo

This dude is gonna be more of a liability than Wideman Hahaha

I doubt it.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Karl

I seriously doubt that.

I think you're underestimating just how much Wideman has regressed over the last 2 years. I mean, you may have a point about Bartkowski being worse than Wideman last year when Bartkowski was with the Nucks, but Wideman has regressed even more since that point in time.

So, you may wonder then, 'well if that's the case why are they still playing Wideman? Why don't they play someone from Stockton' The only answer I can give to that is they're trying to give the old Widedog one last kick at the can in his NHL career to prove he's got anything hint of something good left to give.

And Bartkowski hasn't regressed from his crappy season with the Canucks a year ago? He was on pace for about the same stats but in Providence!

Wideman has stats right now at 50 games that are as good as or better than Barkowski's over an entire season with Vancouver. Same thing last year over 51 games. Including defensive stats.

[nemanja2306]

You just know that idiot will give him more ice time than he actually deserves or can handle. Like Chiasson.

This has glue guns fingers all over it.

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[Karl]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

And Bartkowski hasn't regressed from his crappy season with the Canucks a year ago? He was on pace for about the same stats but in Providence!

Wideman has stats right now at 50 games that are as good as or better than Barkowski's over an entire season with Vancouver. Same thing last year over 51 games. Including defensive stats.

Bartkowski can skate better than Wideman. That alone is good enough for me.

What can Wideman still do decently at this stage? Shoot the puck? Not really. Often when he does that, he shoots it into shin pads and facilitates an offensive opportunity the other way for the opposing team.

[Sylvanfan]

I think this is nothing more than covering the bases in regards to meeting the exposure requirements for the expansion draft.

I wonder if this does shed light into what the Flames are planning to do with Jokipakka. I forget when the deadline to qualify RFA players is, and if it would be before or after the expansion draft. I get the feeling that the Flames likely don't have any appetite to qualify Jokipakka. IIRC he would be arbitration eligible, and would require a QO with a 10% raise.

[Robbob]

Man every thread is starting to get inundated with negative or pointless attacks. Starting to get unreadable in almost every thread.

[combustiblefuel]

Meh...

Let's all just chill out and see what happens.

[SuperMatt18]

He was actually fine in a bottom pairing role in Boston, wasn't great on the tire fire that was the Vancouver Canucks last season.

Even if he just ends up being depth in advance of the trade deadline, and a guy who fills a hole we had for our expansion draft compliance, it's a decent enough move.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Karl

Bartkowski can skate better than Wideman. That alone is good enough for me.

What can Wideman still do decently at this stage? Shoot the puck? Not really. Often when he does that, he shoots it into shin pads and facilitates an offensive opportunity the other way for the opposing team.

Apparently he is better overall, according to his stats. Both conventional and advanced.

Wideman has his issues, especially with footspeed. And he hasn't been good for a month or so, though he gets criticized for plays that aren't really his fault, or are a combination of bad plays from several guys.

But he also went through a pretty decent span of games this year where he was completely adequate and perhaps even good. Even some of the biggest critics admitted it at the time (though they've forgotten now).

[RichKlit]

Haha can't believe how negative things are around here lately. Minor news undoubtly due to the expansion draft.

[Bourque's Twin]

CP is going to explode when Bartkowski plays on the 3rd pairing, Wideman stays on the 2nd, and Kulak is sent down.

[ComixZone]

Corsi Jones ‏@vowswithinhb 1h1 hour ago
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For what it's worth here is bartkowskis hero chart the year he played for Vancouver

This is old and I can't confirm it was full 82 #flames pic.twitter.com/CeroTA62Ke

I mean, it's worth a shot.

[mikephoen]

If signing Bartkowski means Brodie moves back to the right side, it's like the Flames just traded a mediocre 2nd pairing defenseman for an allstar!

[Toonage]

At this point even if the mistakes are the same, I'd just rather see someone else making them.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin

CP is going to explode when Bartkowski plays on the 3rd pairing, Wideman stays on the 2nd, and Kulak is sent down.

Which is one of the two most likely outcomes outcomes (the other being Hathaway goes down and the Flames carry 8 defenders). Either way I'd bet on Wideman staying right where he is (much to my chagrin).

[btimbit]

I choose positivity. Wideman trade incoming