02-15-2017, 11:35 AM
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#1541
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
More sense than Wideman garnering a #1 RW? Yea, just by a bit.  |
But ONLY a small bit. Teeny bit really. Too minuscule to compare.
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02-15-2017, 11:57 AM
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#1543
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: San Francisco
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Originally Posted by Toonage
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How many times did he plug McDavid in it?
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02-15-2017, 11:59 AM
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#1544
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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None that I recall, but he did suggest we replace our 3rd line center Matt Stajan (uh huh) with Carl Soderberg for, I don't know, reasons.
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02-15-2017, 12:09 PM
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#1545
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: 0° latitude, 0° longitude
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
The Bartkowski "signing" makes me think Jokipakka might be on the market or at the very least not in the Flames' plan for next season.
If Bartkowski was purely motivated by the expansion draft, then that likely means the Flames don't have plans on bringing back Jokipakka, as they could have met the expansion draft requirements by re-signing Jokipakka.
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i would think it means the opposite and that they want to keep Jokipakka but to wait till the off season and just give him a qualifying offer and not have to expose him, no? or is this not allowed?
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02-15-2017, 12:15 PM
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#1546
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Demetric
i would think it means the opposite and that they want to keep Jokipakka but to wait till the off season and just give him a qualifying offer and not have to expose him, no? or is this not allowed?
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Even if Jokipakka is an unsigned RFA for the expansion draft, Las Vegas can take him and give him a qualifying offer to retain his RFA rights. The Flames would still lose him. An unsigned RFA does really nothing for proteciton.
If the Flames had every intention to re-sign Jokipakka for next season, then there is no need to sign Bartkowski just for the expansion draft. The only exception might be that Jokipakka intends to take the Flames to arbitration and therefore the Flames wouldn't have a d-man that satisfies the expansion draft requirements.
Last edited by sureLoss; 02-15-2017 at 12:17 PM.
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02-15-2017, 02:41 PM
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#1547
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Lifetime Suspension
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A Tweet by Jonathan Willis:
Michael Stone's career is amazing.
2013-14: dragged down Yandle
2014-16: propped up by Ekman-Larsson
2016-17: seems to have killed Goligoski
https://twitter.com/JonathanWillis/s...rc=twsrc%5Etfw
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02-15-2017, 04:24 PM
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#1548
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
Treliving tells us deadline approach is to upgrade now without hurting team long term. Not interested in trading top prospects. #Flames
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02-15-2017, 05:01 PM
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#1549
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
Treliving tells us deadline approach is to upgrade now without hurting team long term. Not interested in trading top prospects. #Flames
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Best news iv heard all day
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02-15-2017, 05:04 PM
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#1550
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
Treliving tells us deadline approach is to upgrade now without hurting team long term. Not interested in trading top prospects. #Flames
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Do we even really have any blue-chip prospects? Maybe Jankowski and Parsons?
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02-15-2017, 05:35 PM
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#1551
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
Do we even really have any blue-chip prospects? Maybe Jankowski and Parsons?
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no
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02-15-2017, 05:41 PM
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#1552
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by keenan87
Do we even really have any blue-chip prospects? Maybe Jankowski and Parsons?
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Without sparking another debate about the meaning of blue-chip, no. A handful of guys who might pan out as NHL players and then a bunch of filler.
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02-15-2017, 06:02 PM
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#1553
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Lifetime Suspension
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The quote said "top-prospects". It's pretty self explanatory what that means. How anyone read that and made the jump to "blue chip" is beyond me. No need to debate the merits of what that definition is. No one said it.
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02-15-2017, 06:02 PM
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#1554
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Kamloops
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
Do we even really have any blue-chip prospects? Maybe Jankowski and Parsons?
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Well, Tkachuk was a prospect for a very short time before he became an NHLer, so I'd feel good about that, and Parsons looks pretty legit.
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02-15-2017, 06:13 PM
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#1555
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
Do we even really have any blue-chip prospects? Maybe Jankowski and Parsons?
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he said top prospects, not blue chip.
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02-15-2017, 07:04 PM
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#1556
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
Treliving tells us deadline approach is to upgrade now without hurting team long term. Not interested in trading top prospects. #Flames
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So none of these in the top 9.
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...83&postcount=1
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02-15-2017, 07:30 PM
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#1557
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
Treliving tells us deadline approach is to upgrade now without hurting team long term. Not interested in trading top prospects. #Flames
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This is like trying to have your cake and eat it too. What team is going to give us those upgrades by taking on assets that do not benefit them long term?
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02-15-2017, 08:00 PM
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#1558
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkGio
This is like trying to have your cake and eat it too. What team is going to give us those upgrades by taking on assets that do not benefit them long term?
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Kind of a ridiculous comment about such a generic statement. You're reading way too much into it.
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02-15-2017, 08:18 PM
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#1559
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
Dreger: "I can tell you the asking price for Shattenkirk, even as a rental, is incredibly high. It's a prospect and a first." #stlblues 1/2
Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
Dreger: "And that may have to also include a third piece" to land Shattenkirk depending on quality of prospect/pick. #stlblues NBCSN 2/2
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02-15-2017, 11:20 PM
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#1560
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
The quote said "top-prospects". It's pretty self explanatory what that means. How anyone read that and made the jump to "blue chip" is beyond me. No need to debate the merits of what that definition is. No one said it.
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So then enlighten me on who you think our top prospecte are and why we shouldn't trade them for the right deal? Every team has guys like Kylington/Anderson/Gillies so I would have 0 problems trading any of those guys for a long term solution.
That's why I defined blue chip prospects. Those are the "top prospects" in my opinion who Treliving should try to hold onto. Even then, most fans of other teams in the league wouldn't even think much about acquiring Jankowski or Parsons... I would be happy if they proved me wrong but the Flames minor league/AHL prospects are not that good... some of them might pan out and that's why I think the Flames should give some a chance to see if they can surprise next year on the big club but there aren't many prospects imo who I would guarantee will/should become regulsr NHL players.
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