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Old 02-05-2017, 03:08 PM   #81
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Yeah. If there is anyone who deserves the goat horns on this game, it is Stajan. That attempted bank pass that went right out into the slot for the Rangers player was horrible. Ended up giving the Rags their 4th goal which turned out to be the difference.

Basically Stajan went from a hero against the Devils on Friday to a goat today against the Rangers

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Old 02-05-2017, 03:08 PM   #82
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Did you try the link? That usually works for people that can't see the embedded video:

Otherwise here's the smaller gif:
It was clearly deflected AC, that video capture it perfectly.

I'm not looking for an argument when I say this but when did it become too much to ask for your goaltenders to make a few really, really tough saves per game? Elliot is pretty much camped underneath the crossbar when that puck goes in.
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:09 PM   #83
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So everyone blames Elliot but what about the Grabner goal where every player drifts across the ice and leaves Grabner all on his own to fire into the empty net, or was that Elliotts fauult as well??
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Yup pretty much played it how you would normally, so did Elliot (he was at the top of his crease when the puck passed him, skating backwards and playing the potential pass/rebound to the player on his left). But because they are the 16/17 whipping boys they suck and that's why we lost.

They just won 3 in a row and lost a 1 goal game to a top team in the afternoon... relax everyone.
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Good Game,

Thought Calgary deserved to win.

3rd goal on Elliot, kinda soft. Top of the slot and deflected off Widemans skate, still far enough out that he should of had it.

The Stajan give away was horrible, so was his penalty in the first period in the offensive zone away from the play. If anyone is looking for a goat this game it is stajan!

Good for Versteeg, good for Ferland. About time this team showed some emotion and stood up for themselves and teamates.

Sucks that we lost but I did enjoy the game.
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meh... third goal wasn't great, but I don't think it qualifies as a softie either..

bad break on the deflection but really in that 50/50 window of 'unstoppable/great save' imo Eliot is already at the top of the crease and the guy is shooting from just about at top of the circle at point of release... not sure how much further you can go out with the NYRs having another guy coming down the other wing?

Wasn't really expecting a win at MSG after winning 3 in a row... team showed a lot of good things; just need to continue that and not get down on themselves as the Pittsburgh game will also be a very tough win to get.
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:10 PM   #84
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Stajan with the goat horns today over Elliott too IMO.
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:12 PM   #85
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I missed the game. I see Chiasson was on the ice for all 3 even strength goals against. Was it bad luck or bad play?
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:13 PM   #86
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Yeah Stajan, and the Bennett line as well. Top 6 chipped in while the bottom 6 let them down. Elliott not great, but not terrible. But we need better than just okay from him. ~.900 SV% does not win games often.
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:15 PM   #87
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I thought Bennett was great today. The ice seemed tilted in our favour when he was on and he was dominant on the boards.

I checked the stats to see if they agreed with my perception and he posted a 76% Corsi.
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:17 PM   #88
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Is there a link with audio of the Versteeg wave? I've seen the silent gif cut would love hear it with the crowd.
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:20 PM   #89
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Got in a fight and didn't have his jersey tied down.

So basically he's a monster.
No use blaming the rules on that one. It's cut and dried and everyone knows it. No one to blame but Versteeg. Pretty stupid of him actually.

Loved his exit though!
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:21 PM   #90
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I really don't see how people can watch this team on the regular and still Excuse the goaltending. It matters not if it deflected or not. He was poorly positioned and once again our goalies don't come up with a relatively routine save that 99% of the other teams in the playoff race are getting. How many times do we walk away saying the other teams goalie stole a game from us? Tons. I can't honestly think of a game outside of that one early in the year against Chicago that ours have won.

Yeah our defence is bad at times, but I think people underestimate just how much of a effect it has on your team when you know you have no help and every mistake is likely going to end up in the back of the net. Derrick wills and Loubo came right out on the post game show a couple of weeks ago and said the Flames has zero confidence in their goaltending and it was effecting all their play.

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It definitely was deflected:

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He goes down very quickly on a puck that is rising. Simply making himself big at the top of the crease and not going down would stop that puck, regardless of the difficult deflection.

He's gotta give himself the best chance at stopping pucks he doesn't see by getting the technical side down.

These are issues that working with a goalie coach should iron out. It just seems that every goalie that comes through lately has a weakness that's leading to bad goals against and don't seem to improve on it over their tenure here. Eventually you have to call the goalie coach into question. That or the goalie is just stubbornly sticking to their habits or being complacent. I dunno.
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:33 PM   #92
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Nah, that's on Chiasson and Versteeg. Blew defensive zone coverage.
Looked to me that Bennett abandoned the slot to rush the defender coming down the half boards and Vertseeg got caught watching from the low slot and not covering the point where he should have had said defender...

But certainly not Elliott's fault.
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:46 PM   #93
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Looked to me that Bennett abandoned the slot to rush the defender coming down the half boards and Vertseeg got caught watching from the low slot and not covering the point where he should have had said defender...

But certainly not Elliott's fault.
Versteeg and Chiasson are both on the left side of the ice - Bennett had to challenge the point shot, otherwise that player has an unchallenged shot.

You're just on a witch hunt if you're looking to blame Bennett on that one.
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Hoping the extended rest and watching the Superbowl can help Johnson mentally prepare for Pittsburgh. No easy task. His last decent stretch of games was Jan 7-13ish... let's pray he goes on another hot streak.
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:55 PM   #95
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NHL.com has given the 3rd goal to Tkachuk. He must have deflected the puck off the shaft of his stick. That's 10 goals for him.
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NHL.com has given the 3rd goal to Tkachuk. He must have deflected the puck off the shaft of his stick. That's 10 goals for him.
Yeah, the highlight description is that Tkachuk creates the turn over then tips in Backlund's shot.
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:04 PM   #97
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NHL.com has given the 3rd goal to Tkachuk. He must have deflected the puck off the shaft of his stick. That's 10 goals for him.
I knew it! One way you can tell who scored is when the guy in front skates away by himself and the other players follow him to celebrate. This is exactly what Tkachuk did and Backlund pointed right at him and followed him to the corner.

I'm surprised there was no debate at all on air. Actually, I'm not surprised.
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:17 PM   #98
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Ugh have missed basically all games since the break. Tuned in for the 3rd to watch and ugh.

Maybe I should continue avoiding watching more
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:35 PM   #99
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Flames played a good game. Probably deserved to win. Just, ugh. These types of games annoy me the most, though. Outplay the other team for the most part, but lose. ****.
My day is now slightly less enjoyable.

At least the Kings lost too.

Agreed. These types of games are also disappointing because it shows what this team is actually capable of, making their periods of really awful play stand out even more...

If they had showed this type of resolve at the start of the year, or even just during that Mtl/Tor stretch, this loss could be viewed as one that sometimes happens to good teams, rather than one that lost us badly needed points in a tight playoff race.
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Thought Chiasson had a good game up until the third. He shouldn't be on the PK either. Bennett and Versteeg also were good up until the third. Bennett just seems lost defensively and doesn't know where to go when the puck gets passed around a bit. He was the key culprit on 2 goals.

Reffing was bad again but what else is new. Two clear penalties in the last 5 minutes went uncalled.
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