American Politics Thread: Orange is the new POTUS (Archive)

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by opendoor

Yeah, why trust your own eyes when you can trust Alex Jones. Here's an image during Trump's speech (you can clearly see him on the live video screens) and the place looks half empty:

Trumps buddy Alex Jones? He seems sane

Originally Posted by Alex Jones

I'm never a lesser of two evils person, but with Hillary, there's not even the same universe. She is an abject, psychopathic, demon from Hell that as soon as she gets into power is going to try to destroy the planet. I'm sure of that, and people around her say she's so dark now, and so evil, and so possessed that they are having nightmares, they're freaking out. Folks let me just tell you something, and if media wants to go with this, that's fine. There are dozens of videos and photos of Obama having flies land on him, indoors, at all times of year, and he'll be next to a hundred people and no one has flies on them. Hillary, reportedly, I mean, I was told by people around her that they think she's demon-possessed, okay? I'm just going to go ahead and say it, okay?
They said that they're scared. That's why when I see her when kids are by her, I actually get scared myself, with a child -- with that big rubber face and that -- I mean this woman is dangerous, ladies and gentleman. I'm telling you, she is a demon. This is Biblical. She's going to launch a nuclear war. The Russians are scared of her.
[...]
Imagine how bad she smells, man? I'm told her and Obama, just stink, stink, stink, stink. You can't wash that evil off, man. Told there's a rotten smell around Hillary. I'm not kidding, people say, they say -- folks, I've been told this by high up folks. They say listen, Obama and Hillary both smell like sulfur. I never said this because the media will go crazy with it, but I've talked to people that are in protective details, they're scared of her. And they say listen, she's a frickin' demon and she stinks and so does Obama. I go, like what? Sulfur. They smell like Hell.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Trumps buddy Alex Jones? He seems sane

Alex Jones is crazy like a freaking fox. do you know how much money he makes peddling this stuff. I have my doubts that he believes half of them. But a book about Barry and Hillary being possessed by demons and covered with insects?

how is that not a best seller in the conspiracy/crazed person market place.

I'm willing to bet that half the people that want the truth about 9/11 don't actually want the truth because they sell a ton of books and videos and the whacko's worship them as intellectual giants in the lands of dumb midgets.

[ResAlien]

Trump has called for the hiring of 5000 additional border control officers...After signing a federal hiring freeze earlier this week. Clueless.

Excited to see how much money comes out of my pocket for this wall he wants to build. Because now Mexico will totally pay the US back but taxpayers will foot the initial bill. Goddam rubes.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Trump has called for the hiring of 5000 additional border control officers...After signing a federal hiring freeze earlier this week. Clueless.

Excited to see how much money comes out of my pocket for this wall he wants to build. Because now Mexico will totally pay the US back but taxpayers will foot the initial bill. Goddam rubes.

I thought that the freeze didn't apply to the Military, Homeland security and border services?

It wasn't a universal freeze. I mean we all hate what Trump does and says, but in this case he's not going against the Federal Hiring Freeze because I don't think it applies here.

And I'm betting that there will be two Nafta deals on the table for Mexico. One with the whole you pay for the wall option and the other nastier we pay for the wall option.

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Trump has called for the hiring of 5000 additional border control officers...After signing a federal hiring freeze earlier this week. Clueless.

Excited to see how much money comes out of my pocket for this wall he wants to build. Because now Mexico will totally pay the US back but taxpayers will foot the initial bill. Goddam rubes.

Even more fun, he figures they should bring torture back. Good times.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

And I'm betting that there will be two Nafta deals on the table for Mexico. One with the whole you pay for the wall option and the other nastier we pay for the wall option.

Yeah, the whole "make them pay for it" thing wasn't meant to mean that they would actually cut a cheque for the cost. It was that he would use trade leverage to recoup the costs from them somehow.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Perhaps Alex Jones utilizes his platform to espouse his crazed rhetoric in an attempt to peddle products to the uninformed masses and he doesn't believe what he shills. I tend to think that perhaps a crazed loon such as himself, who would by most definitions be considered mentally ill, is exactly the nut that he appears to be. The fact that the President of the United States has appeared on his show, giving credence to the garbage that is spewed forth out of his hateful mouth is a very scary thought. This is the administration of the bat#### insane.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by Minnie

Even more fun, he figures they should bring torture back. Good times.

McCain is the only Republican who will fight him on this. If years ago you'd told me the guy who fought hardest against recognizing MLK day would be the sane one in a fight against the president I'd have said you were nuts.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

McCain is the only Republican who will fight him on this. If years ago you'd told me the guy who fought hardest against recognizing MLK day would be the sane one in a fight against the president I'd have said you were nuts.

Him and Lindsay Graham are the only ones with the balls to imply Trump doesn't know what he is doing

[Senator Clay Davis]

And yet they both will end up backing all of Trump's cabinet nominees. They talk pretty tough, but they're about as spineless as Rubio.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

The media did not do its job and instead allowed this to happen. They are complicit in this by allowing it to go unchecked in the name of ratings.

Journalists have to eat and pay the rent.

If all media would focus on listing Trumps lies, tons of media would simply go bankrupt, because people in general are just not that interested.

We get the media most people are willing to pay for. Even people who ideologically support the existence of media that tells them things they don't want to hear (but should), almost never visit sites with views that significantly differ from their own. Which is the lowest possible effort to support such media. God forbid anyone actually pays for their news anymore.

Give that system time, and you have the media landscape as it is.

Besides, we're way past the point where the media is needed to normalize the Trump administrations constant lies, because it IS normal. Outright lying and blatant denial of facts have been a major part of the Republican playbook way before Trump, and Trump broke the final parts of that dam.

It's not like tons of journalists didn't write about it either. There are probably hundreds of thousands or millions of various articles, blogs, tweets and videos on the internet on this topic, starting pretty early in the Trump campaign.

Seriously, I don't agree the media dropped the ball on this at all.

There was even a completely unprecedent unified front of both liberal AND conservative media outlets specifically denouncing him as a dangerous charlatan.

The media did their job. Not enough people cared. That's not the medias fault.

Personally I feel the last presidential campaign burst the bubble that there is a significant amount of people in the world with reasonable skills for media criticism. I tend to hang in circles with mostly rather intelligent and critical minded liberals, and even in my precious little bubble I've constantly run into situations where I'm trying to explain to people that Trump isn't "business as usual". Never with success. Even when I clearly point out that "btw, you just posted fake news, links here and here for the actual facts", the best I can get is "all media is dumb".

When you point out to someone that "the article doesn't actually say what you thought the headline says", pretty much everybody will simply blame the headline.

People don't take responsibility for being informed, and that makes the medias job to actually inform people impossible. The real world is more complicated than what you can fit in the headline, but most people never read much more than that.

[troutman]

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[Bunk]

Bob Cesca ‏@bobcesca_go
Trump called for the hiring of another 5,000 border patrol officers today. On Monday he signed a freeze on government hiring. He's clueless.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

And yet they both will end up backing all of Trump's cabinet nominees. They talk pretty tough, but they're about as spineless as Rubio.

John McCain is a political coward.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Bunk

Bob Cesca ‏@bobcesca_go
Trump called for the hiring of another 5,000 border patrol officers today. On Monday he signed a freeze on government hiring. He's clueless.

I am giddy with anticipation of the hilarity that is going to happen onver the next 4 years.

[kerriffic]

Lol but also terrifying.

[KelVarnsen]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I am crapping my pants with anticipation of the disaster that is going to happen over the next 4 years.

Fixed

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by Bunk

Bob Cesca ‏@bobcesca_go
Trump called for the hiring of another 5,000 border patrol officers today. On Monday he signed a freeze on government hiring. He's clueless.

That would be where I saw that. Seems it doesn't apply to border security agents.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

Trump is the ultimate troll in chief. I laughed so hard when he shut down CNNs questions and now they have been busted using photos 4hr prior to the inauguration. You really can't 100% trust any news outlets.

Where did you get this info? I'm scared to ask

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Bunk

Bob Cesca ‏@bobcesca_go
Trump called for the hiring of another 5,000 border patrol officers today. On Monday he signed a freeze on government hiring. He's clueless.

He'll just hire a Blackwater type private firm to patrol the border. There... not technically government hiring. And he can shrug his shoulders when the body count piles up.