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Old 01-14-2017, 11:17 PM   #101
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That call on Hamilton with 5 minutes left was ridiculous. Draisaitl went for the hit and Dougie just defended himself after sending the puck up. How's that even roughing?!?

On top of that the Flames were going up ice on a 3 on 2 almost 3 on 1.

This officiating garbage needs to be cleaned up. Flames get mauled all over the ice and get nothing while other teams gets handed PP's time after time.

So infuriating.
Up until that Hamilton call, i had no problem with the refs letting both teams go at it. Then a very questionable call, considering what had taken place throughout the period , left a sour taste in my mouth.
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Old 01-14-2017, 11:18 PM   #102
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I had music on instead of the TV sound.

How was Campbell on the colour commentary?
Sorta like this but worse

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Good call, Monahan was definitely blazing in on Dubnyk on his last shootout goal posted above.
He uses that move too much and in a sense becomes to predictable with his moves
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You're about the only one that hates the "blame the ref" crap more than me, but come on refs. Jeff Marek on Sirius XM the other day said he was talking to some stats people about it and he gave the "I'm not one for conspiracy theories, BUT...". Calgary was the least penalized team for the year and a half before the Wideman incident and have become one of the highest (actually highest this year). He said the stats guys broke it down and the penalties that are responsible for the increase were calls like crosschecking that happen all game and only some are called

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Old 01-14-2017, 11:20 PM   #105
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Watching Lucic tonight, that contract is really going to hurt them, he's absolutely terrible with a one dimensional game and fading speed that's not really NHL speed anymore.

Enjoy that contract, your stuck with him.
It was a joy to see him skate so slow, be a non factor and be so angry at the bench. Man oh man that guy has anger issues...
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Old 01-14-2017, 11:20 PM   #106
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He uses that move too much and in a sense becomes to predictable with his moves
Which is why Talbot definitely did the exact same thing Dubnyk did despite knowing that Monahan scored when Dubnyk did that... right? wait.. what?
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Old 01-14-2017, 11:20 PM   #107
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Also the first time the Oilers win the season series against us in more than a decade.
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I had music on instead of the TV sound.

How was Campbell on the colour commentary?
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Some thoughts:

I ain't even mad (well, maybe a little). Flames played a terrific game, and were night and day from the NJ game. I thought they were the better team overall tonight and had more quality scoring chances. This would likely have been a blowout for the Flames if not for Talbot and the goal posts.

Excellent defensive effort tonight. They gave the Oilers very little all game, and McDavid only looked dangerous in the OT with all that ice to work with.

Fantastic game by Elliott. I think he deserves the next start.

Johnny is really fighting the puck right now. Whatever is going on with him, I hope he gets out of it soon.


Can't believe how goddamn lucky the Oilers are. All of the bounces went their way tonight, the officials were in their pocket, and they continue to survive because of loser points and OT. Without Talbot and McDoofy, they're a below-average team at best. Sadly they've had our number this year, and it's frustrating as hell. But I have a good feeling the Flames will finally get that monkey off their back next week.
I agree that Johnny is fighting it in terms of actually finishing. But so is a lot of the team.
However, I think he has been fine at maintaining puck possession, skating it into the zone, and generating offensive opportunities.

How many posts did the Flames hit today? This game definitely could have gone either way. Even in the weak overtime, the Flames hit a post.
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Up until that Hamilton call, i had no problem with the refs letting both teams go at it. Then a very questionable call, considering what had taken place throughout the period , left a sour taste in my mouth.
I agree that it was pretty even up till that call, but nhl officiating is a joke. One night lots of obstruction and interference calls and then you have a night like this where every guy dumping the puck in is getting clipped trying to skate into the zone. Just would like to see some consistency. Bring on the robot refs.
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It was a joy to see him skate so slow, be a non factor and be so angry at the bench. Man oh man that guy has anger issues...
Another failure by a GM that was bought in to stop the failure.

Lucic won't even be his worse move where he's really only had one move that I would consider to be good.

I really want Chia to be the guy that has to try to figure out how to improve that team when 2 players are literally going to be making a quarter of their payroll. Draisaitl and McDavid.
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He uses that move too much and in a sense becomes to predictable with his moves
When's the last time he used that move? He's gone deke the last few breakaways in general. And it's not like we've participated in many shootouts this year at all.

Really odd thing to take issue with.
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Even game IMO. Either team could have won. Oilers better at the gimmick.
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If the Flames were a bit more on their offensive game, it's quite feasible they could've been up 2-0 after the first. Oilers generated nothing dangerous in the first, whereas the Flames had some excellent opportunities but the execution wasn't quite there.. maybe jittery given the importance of the game?

Their finishing abilities have really been lacking this week. The PP speed and cycling is still there, but it doesn't help that we're getting 1-2 chances a game lately. Not much to work with......
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Unsuccessful shootout attempts regularly look bad. Judging a players intensity on what they do in a shootout is about as poor a way to make that assessment that I can possibly think of
Monahan has become too predictable.

Gaudreau has a habit of making too moves before losing the puck off his stick.
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Old 01-14-2017, 11:24 PM   #116
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I guess this is just a prime example about how being a fan of the Oilers causes brain damage, or the failure of the Edmonton school system.

At least I hope you're an Oilers fan, because no self respecting Flames fan would post anything like this.
Uhhh I was mocking oiler fans...
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You're about the only one that hates the "blame the ref" crap more than me, but come on refs. Jeff Marek on Sirius XM the other day said he was talking to some stats people about it and he gave the "I'm not one for conspiracy theories, BUT...". Calgary was the least penalized team for the year and a half before the Wideman incident and have become one of the highest (actually highest this year). He said the stats guys broke it down and the penalties that are responsible for the increase were calls like crosschecking that happen all game and only some are called
Immediately after the Wideman incident I believed there was a conspiracy, but I thought it wound down after a few weeks and the reffing was reasonable for the rest of last season. This season the biggest issue is not the refs, it's the coaching and roster. Kris Russell replaced by Jyrki Jokipakka. Joe Colborne replaced by Alex Chiasson. David Jones replaced by Troy Brouwer. Jiri Hudler replaced by Matthew Tkachuk. Engelland is playing more minutes. The system is less passive and more physical. The team speed and skill level to draw penalties is lower. This is Treliving's team now.
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Old 01-14-2017, 11:25 PM   #118
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Which is why Talbot definitely did the exact same thing Dubnyk did despite knowing that Monahan scored when Dubnyk did that... right? wait.. what?
If a player chooses to use basicly the same moves in a shootout I would argue the goaltender has the advantage.
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Gaudreau has a habit of making too moves before losing the puck off his stick.
Outside of the last time that worked (as was already noted), when's the last time Monahan used that move? He is often a shooter.

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Gaudreau has a habit of making too moves before losing the puck off his stick.
On breakaways / shoot out attempts? No he doesn't.


It just seems like you're frustrated and taking a stab in the dark and something puzzling to be frustrated with.
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When's the last time he used that move? He's gone deke the last few breakaways in general. And it's not like we've participated in many shootouts this year at all.

Really odd thing to take issue with.
Used that move to score vs MIN,
Tried a forehand move before shooting fivehole in CHI,
Tried his previously successful way to shoot below the glove in VAN.

3 different attempts this year, then decided to try the one that was successful again tonight. How dare he.

It's almost as if he's using logic to determine he should try the move that was successful so far this season.
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