PGT: President-Elect Donald J Trump

[wittynickname]

Honest curiosity here, does anyone actually get genuinely offended when people make fun of their height? Like, people can be discriminated against because of race/gender/sexuality/weight/etc but height?

I mean, outside of someone with an actual disorder that causes dwarfism (and that is very likely not the PC term for that and if so I apologize but I couldn't find one on a google search that was going to be understandable without another google search), I never thought of height as a major source of bullying or anything like that.

[puffnstuff]

I make one goldfish joke...

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by jonesy

Nothing too hard to grasp, just wanted a handy tip card so I know who I can make fun of.

I'll start with my wife (black) who chooses to straighten her hair.

If I don't report back in a few days you will know I have met my demise.

I would imagine she likely straightens her hair because 1) it's easier to deal with straight than curly, and depending if straightened with an iron or chemically straightened, it would last for at least days (iron) or months (chemically). 2) Natural hair on black women is often viewed as unprofessional, thus many black women choose to straighten their hair. Which is a whole other racist can of worms that we don't need to go into here.

There's a difference between that and what Trump does. Trump is not wearing his hair like that for the ease of styling or because it's more socially/professionally acceptable. Quite the opposite. That ridiculous bouffant is part of his image now.

And really, if the man is as wealthy and powerful as he claims to be, why on earth doesn't he pay a stylist/barber who knows what he/she is doing and why doesn't he find someone who can properly apply spray tan? As a professional in the field, his look is offensive solely because of the utter lack of skill involved in his "look."

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

I make one goldfish joke...

Any opportunity for the oppressed right to bang their drum. It's mostly all fake indignation in order to try and trap someone into an AHA! moment. We've got a few years of this silliness in store. "See liberals you're as bad as we are! You can't say anything anymore!"

Childish really.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Honest curiosity here, does anyone actually get genuinely offended when people make fun of their height? Like, people can be discriminated against because of race/gender/sexuality/weight/etc but height?

I mean, outside of someone with an actual disorder that causes dwarfism (and that is very likely not the PC term for that and if so I apologize but I couldn't find one on a google search that was going to be understandable without another google search), I never thought of height as a major source of bullying or anything like that.

yes, i'm short and have been made fun of.

I think it's worse for guys who are short. I've heard dating especially is very tough psychologically for short guys.

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

yes, i'm short and have been made fun of.

I think it's worse for guys who are short. I've heard dating especially is very tough psychologically for short guys.

I'm short as well, and have been teased for it, but it never felt like that big of a deal to me, but I can definitely see the point more regarding men, height would be a different kind of issue for them than for women.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by jonesy

Nothing too hard to grasp, just wanted a handy tip card so I know who I can make fun of.

I'll start with my wife (black) who chooses to straighten her hair.

If I don't report back in a few days you will know I have met my demise.

Rule of Thumb: You can make fun of someone's fake hair and fake tan if that person makes a habit of insulting people based on their appearance, weight, physical disabilities, income level, and lack of fame.

On the other hand, if the guy with the fake hair and fake tan is a decent human being who treats people with respect, don't make fun of him.

This is crazy. Trump revels in being an a$$hole and insulting people for whatever reason he sees fit. Now people are crying about him getting a bit of his own back.

It's like bitching about getting punched in the face by the guy you started a fight with.

On that note, it was funny watching Trump squirm when Megyn Kelly asked him a simple question about his habit of insulting women based on their appearance and weight. You just know he wanted to say something nasty about her looks, but even he knew that wouldn't fly, so he kept it classy and said she was on the rag.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

I'm short as well, and have been teased for it, but it never felt like that big of a deal to me, but I can definitely see the point more regarding men, height would be a different kind of issue for them than for women.

the next few days when you have clients come in (mostly women I would assume) ask them what their ideal guy's height is. I would be surprised if anyone said less than 5'8".

Do your own polling

[driveway]

Chris Rock said about his old show's philosophy:

Make fun of what people DO, not what they ARE.

People's choices are fair game, inherent characteristics are off limits.

It's pretty easy actually.

[AltaGuy]

Trump reminds of Dennis from It's Always Sunny, if Dennis became President somehow.

[dobbles]

Originally Posted by Ducay

You're faulting him for saving 1000 jobs because he couldn't save them all? Would you be happier all 2300 jobs were leaving? How is that a loss? That's a big a win.

Christ, there's no right answer with anti-Trump people is there? He'd be scorned if all the jobs left, he's scorned for saving them. Rational thought has gone out the window for many. No wonder the world is so divided

Was reading this article about the deal, and they brought up a good point. That Trump railed against using incentives to keep companies on the campaign trail and then has to resort to them right away. To me that's what opens Trump up for criticism. Just another example of saying one thing and doing another. Unfortunately the narrative in 4 years with the blue collar voters that turned this election will be about the 1000 jobs he saved, not about the 1000 that were lost or the bribe that took place to keep them.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...medium=twitter

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Honest curiosity here, does anyone actually get genuinely offended when people make fun of their height? Like, people can be discriminated against because of race/gender/sexuality/weight/etc but height?

I mean, outside of someone with an actual disorder that causes dwarfism (and that is very likely not the PC term for that and if so I apologize but I couldn't find one on a google search that was going to be understandable without another google search), I never thought of height as a major source of bullying or anything like that.

As a short guy, nope.

Teased, definitely. Hurt feelings, maybe. But actual offense? No. Hopefully won't start an "identity politics" discussion, but I just don't see "short people" as an issue.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by dobbles

Was reading this article about the deal, and they brought up a good point. That Trump railed against using incentives to keep companies on the campaign trail and then has to resort to them right away. To me that's what opens Trump up for criticism. Just another example of saying one thing and doing another. Unfortunately the narrative in 4 years with the blue collar voters that turned this election will be about the 1000 jobs he saved, not about the 1000 that were lost or the bribe that took place to keep them.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...medium=twitter

On the flipside Trump also campaigned on Reagan-style trickle down economics. Give the companies a tax break so that the money trickle down to workers. So it would all depend on what's the definition of a bribe.

Some have made a persuasive case that the average voter does not actually hate or resent the rich, or care that much about seeing them knocked down, but instead hates the upper middle/professional class. And that the Trump revolt was never a rejection of the 1% but rather a rejection of doctors, lawyers, accountants, upper middle management, professors, and virtually anyone that has expertise. If that's right, then very few of his supporters are going to be bothered by his making Companies and their CEOs richer.

[ernie]

November job report..

178k jobs added
4.6% unemployment down from 4.9% in October
unemployment under 5% for over a year and approaching full employment.
wages up 2.5%

Expected rate hike as the economy is improving

But Americans didn't like the status quo. I will forever be scratching my head.

[AltaGuy]

Originally Posted by ernie

November job report..

178k jobs added
4.6% unemployment down from 4.9% in October
unemployment under 5% for over a year and approaching full employment.
wages up 2.5%

Expected rate hike as the economy is improving

But Americans didn't like the status quo. I will forever be scratching my head.

All the new jobs went to illegal Mexicans and all the pay hikes went to Muslims. Duh.

[IliketoPuck]

Originally Posted by ernie

November job report..

178k jobs added
4.6% unemployment down from 4.9% in October
unemployment under 5% for over a year and approaching full employment.
wages up 2.5%

Expected rate hike as the economy is improving

But Americans didn't like the status quo. I will forever be scratching my head.

The facts don't matter.

It's how the people in regions that have been left behind feel.

And they feel that they've been marginalized and forgotten because manufacturing jobs have been shipped overseas to cheaper jurisdictions.

Actual numbers be damned. America recovering from the brink of disaster doesn't resonate with these people, because all they see is closed factories and crumbling infrastructure.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

The facts don't matter.

It's how the people in regions that have been left behind feel.

And they feel that they've been marginalized and forgotten because manufacturing jobs have been shipped overseas to cheaper jurisdictions.

Actual numbers be damned. America recovering from the brink of disaster doesn't resonate with these people, because all they see is closed factories and crumbling infrastructure.

The facts also don't matter when the facts have no impact on your life whatsoever.

Why is someone in some small town with no jobs supposed to be swayed by a jobs report showing a decrease in unemployment when it doesn't affect them at all?

If your reality is shuttered factories, what difference does the reality in another county make?

[GirlySports]

it's the same here in Canada.

November
Unemployment fell to 6.8% and 11000 jobs created.

how do Albertans feel?

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

it's the same here in Canada.

November
Unemployment fell to 6.8% and 11000 jobs created.

how do Albertans feel?

Source for this GirlySports?

I've seen this:
http://economicdashboard.alberta.ca/Unemployment

In November 2016 Alberta's seasonally adjusted unemployment rate was 9.0%, up from the 6.9% rate that was registered a year earlier and up from last month's rate of 8.5%. The national unemployment rate was 6.8% in November, down slightly from last November's rate of 7.0%. Alberta's youth unemployment rate was 13.5%, up from last year's 12.7% rate. Both male and female unemployment increased from last year, to 10.1% and 7.6% respectively.

EDIT: Oh, sorry you're talking Canada as a whole. Gotcha. I'm an idiot.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

it's the same here in Canada.

November
Unemployment fell to 6.8% and 11000 jobs created.

how do Albertans feel?

On the radio today CBC said Calgary lost another 10000 jobs. So I while Canada is growing Alberta is still hurting

Edit: I realize now that's your point.