Alberta Politics Thread

[Fuzz]

Yes, well an education would help.

Maybe they could just build the test into the ballot. If you vote for someone like Trump, it's an automatic fail and your vote doesn't count. Self correcting, really.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Yes, well an education would help.

Maybe they could just build the test into the ballot. If you vote for someone like Trump, it's an automatic fail and your vote doesn't count. Self correcting, really.

How about like contests at the liquor store where you have to answer a skill-testing question?

"Answer me these questions three..."

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by ae118

I'm completely with you, I just don't think we should underestimate Kevin O'Leary. Or Kellie Leitch. And similar.

Kevin O'Leary is only like Trump in the sense that he's a wealthy ####### loudmouth TV personality. In other respects he's got fairly conventional Canadian conservative views IIRC. Leitch is the more concerning figure since she's the one trotting out the xenophobic dogwhistles.

I don't think O'Leary runs, and I don't think Leitch wins for a number of reasons (namely that she doesn't have the near 100% name recognition that Trump had and that the Canadian political party leadership process isn't as geared towards mass participation as the American process).

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Yes, well an education would help.

Maybe they could just build the test into the ballot. If you vote for someone like Trump, it's an automatic fail and your vote doesn't count. Self correcting, really.

Why don't we just suspend democracy in that case.

We don't need it, plainly it doesn't work. We should just find a leader, name him for life, and then work hard on life extending or clone technology.

The minute that you start calling voters stupid, or start saying because they voted for this guy or girl that they're dumb or mis-informed you run into the problem that the democrats ran into where they became arrogant and didn't understand their voter base.

I'm sure that there were people on the other side with the mirror thought that anyone that voted for Hillary was stupid and mis-informed and their vote shouldn't count.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Kevin O'Leary is only like Trump in the sense that he's a wealthy ####### loudmouth TV personality. In other respects he's got fairly conventional Canadian conservative views IIRC. Leitch is the more concerning figure since she's the one trotting out the xenophobic dogwhistles.

I don't think O'Leary runs, and I don't think Leitch wins for a number of reasons (namely that she doesn't have the near 100% name recognition that Trump had and that the Canadian political party leadership process isn't as geared towards mass participation as the American process).

I doubt that either of them will be a factor in terms of a leadership vote. They are the wrong type of leaders for the Conservative party right now. People up here are leery of anyone that looks or sounds like or has the same messaging as Trump.

[ae118]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Kevin O'Leary is only like Trump in the sense that he's a wealthy ####### loudmouth TV personality. In other respects he's got fairly conventional Canadian conservative views IIRC. Leitch is the more concerning figure since she's the one trotting out the xenophobic dogwhistles.

I don't think O'Leary runs, and I don't think Leitch wins for a number of reasons (namely that she doesn't have the near 100% name recognition that Trump had and that the Canadian political party leadership process isn't as geared towards mass participation as the American process).

Arguably Trump had more conventional (historically, even Democratic) views in the past. Depends on campaign strategy. I agree what Leitch doing currently is much more concerning. I certainly hope she doesn't win.

[Nufy]

Originally Posted by Locke

How about like contests at the liquor store where you have to answer a skill-testing question?

"Answer me these questions three..."

1. Whats the air speed velocity of an un-laden Swallow ?

[Resolute 14]

Leitch is more concerning because she is more a Canadian version of Mike Pence than a Donald Trump.


As far as Notley being a hypocrite goes, no surprise there. She already has a lengthy history of doing what she once condemned.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Nufy

1. Whats the air speed velocity of an un-laden Swallow ?

Red! ... I mean Blue!

[the_only_turek_fan]

http://calgaryherald.com/business/en...arket-overhaul

The NDP government is considering an overhaul of Alberta’s deregulated electricity market, a major change some observers say could ultimately increase costs for consumers.
Premier Rachel Notley says her government isn’t happy with the current energy market structure, where companies sell their electricity into a provincewide pool to recover their costs and secure profits.

With electricity prices near 20-year lows due to over-supply and weak demand, the province is worried power generators cannot justify new investments in natural gas and renewable energy plants as the government phases out coal-fired facilities by 2030.

“One of the bigger problems with investment into the province as it relates to our electricity industry is the broken state of the energy-only market, in the deregulated market, that was brought in over a decade-and-a-half ago by the previous government,” Notley told reporters Thursday in Edmonton.

What the hell is happening to this place?

Ugggggggh.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

http://calgaryherald.com/business/en...arket-overhaul



What the hell is happening to this place?

Ugggggggh.

That's an awesome picture to go with the article. "Eh, why the **** not. We have no idea."

I LOVE this comment from Notley as the NDP are suing themselves and having to retroactively legislate changes in decade long contracts to cover up their 2 billion dollar screw up. F***ing hilarious if it wasn't so dumb.

“That is creating a great deal of uncertainty with respect to investment … There is a need for change and we are moving forward on it.”

[Kjesse]

Get this government the hell away from anything to do with energy. They are incompetent.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

http://calgaryherald.com/business/en...arket-overhaul

What the hell is happening to this place?

Ugggggggh.

We need to make consumers pay more so we can justify producers building expensive renewable plants! The problem is, consumers aren't being raked over the coals hard enough!

What a problem. That's government looking out for our best interests, right?

[puckedoff]

Prices are too low.... this is a problem for the province?

This is insanity

[Kjesse]

Originally Posted by puckedoff

Prices are too low.... this is a problem for the province?

This is insanity

To add to that, they are apparently suggesting the producers get paid on their capacity to produce, not actual production --- i.e. You get paid for the size of the plant not how much product the plant sells into the market.

Its hard to believe this is even a thing.

[Tron_fdc]

Good lord. Deregulation was a debacle that cost taxpayers a whole lot of money when it was implemented. But now that the market is stabilizing, they want to disrupt it to spike prices so renewables are viable, costing us even MORE money?

These guys are total loons. Who even COMES UP with this stuff? I'm pretty sure my 8 year old is smarter than this.

[Jacks]

This is why we need recall legislation. These bozos would have been turfed a year ago.

[CaptainCrunch]

For anyone that thinks that the NDP is concerned for the lower and middle class, you only have to look at their policies that are built around harming the lower and middle class that are barely hanging on as it is.

Sure we can give them a minimum wage increase, sounds good, until the rest of their stupidity actually increases the cost of everything and puts them in a worse position then they were in before.

This government is absolutely cancerous to this province, if they had any integrity they'd realize that they're morons and step down. Instead they're going to push every single bit of idiotic legislation through and leave a path of destruction that might never be fixed.

I'm interested to see the next poll that comes out, I'm betting their approval rate is in the single digits.

[LanceUppercut]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

Good lord. Deregulation was a debacle that cost taxpayers a whole lot of money when it was implemented. But now that the market is stabilizing, they want to disrupt it to spike prices so renewables are viable, costing us even MORE money?

These guys are total loons. Who even COMES UP with this stuff? I'm pretty sure my 8 year old is smarter than this.

You know who else it costs more money? Businesses. You know, the ones getting knocked around with tax increases, carbon tax, wage increases.

Good god this government is a disaster.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by LanceUppercut

You know who else it costs more money? Businesses. You know, the ones getting knocked around with tax increases, carbon tax, wage increases.

Good god this government is a disaster.

You're preaching to the choir brother. We shut down our manufacturing facility because of deregulation in 2002. At least this time we will be "prepared".

This is a double whammy. Subsidize the generating capacity of green energy with tax dollars, while creating some kind of market instability to push spot power prices up for every single individual and business in the province. I'm going to be very, very interested in what these dummies do, because so far this reeks of someone trying to change something that they have absolutely NO CLUE how to change.