11-10-2016, 12:17 PM
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Do any Flames have personal coaches?
Found an article about Schiefele who appears to be moving up a tier based on his play and found that along with physical training with Gary Roberts Schiefele is also using Adam Oates as a personal coach.
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The secret to Scheifele's surge?
Old-fashioned hard work, and an almost obsessive dedication to his craft.
“You see guys like Sidney Crosby and Connor McDavid, they're always trying to get better,” Scheifele said. “They're trying to be better defensively, trying to work on little intricacies of the game... that's what I try to do. There's still so much growth that I have to go through, the team has to go through.
“I want to be the guy that's leading the charge.”
Over the summer, if he wasn't with fitness guru Gary Roberts, Scheifele was learning on-ice tricks from former NHL star-turned personal coach Adam Oates.
“He's a big tool for me,” Scheifele said. “He's helped so many little parts of my game that go under the radar.”
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An article on Oates indicates that he is personally coaching a lot of NHL players
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In addition to theory, Oates, who ranks seventh with 1,079 career assists, emphasizes rote on-ice work with N.H.L. players, sometimes spending 40 minutes picking the puck up off the boards.
“That’s so remedial, but these guys understand that that’s important to them for their success,” Oates said. “You get good at that, you make five million bucks in our league.”
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Apparently Bryan Trottier and Theo Fluery are offering their services as personal coaches.
Are any Flames using a personal coach?
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11-10-2016, 12:26 PM
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I believe in the Jays.
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Are any Flames using a personal coach?
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IIRC Backlund has one.
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11-10-2016, 12:41 PM
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I'd be heavily cautious about using Theo as a personal coach. Regardless of all else that guy has an enraged persecution complex.
Theo (admirably) succeeded with his 'him against the world' mentality, but thats not a great mentality to breed on a team. Its not something that can be applied to just anyone.
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11-10-2016, 01:11 PM
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No idea, but i hope Johhny and Mony consider going this route if they have'nt already.
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11-10-2016, 01:29 PM
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Last edited by Vulcan; 11-10-2016 at 01:34 PM.
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11-10-2016, 01:40 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by kyuss275
No idea, but i hope Johhny and Mony consider going this route if they have'nt already.
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Those two might benefit more from a psychiatrist right now.
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11-10-2016, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Table 5
Those two might benefit more from a psychiatrist right now.
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The Flames used to have one on the payroll. I wonder what happened to that guy.
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11-10-2016, 01:50 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Locke
I'd be heavily cautious about using Theo as a personal coach. Regardless of all else that guy has an enraged persecution complex.
Theo (admirably) succeeded with his 'him against the world' mentality, but thats not a great mentality to breed on a team. Its not something that can be applied to just anyone.
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Yeah I don't see his value as a coach. He was a very skilled guy that had a chip on his shoulder but he was far from the most committed player off the ice as he lived off his natural talent for the most part.
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11-10-2016, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
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Did he quit taking lessons?
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11-10-2016, 02:25 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Did he quit taking lessons?
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Sure seems like it. 2 goals, 8 points in his last 57 games. Turrible.
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11-10-2016, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Table 5
Those two might benefit more from a psychiatrist right now.
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I hope they only need a psychologist.
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11-10-2016, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Table 5
Those two might benefit more from a psychiatrist right now.
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11-10-2016, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Locke
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Why are you posting a picture of the bad guy from Dr. Strange?
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11-10-2016, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by saXon
Why are you posting a picture of the bad guy from Dr. Strange?
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You mean: Hannibal, the Psychiatrist.
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11-10-2016, 04:13 PM
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Maybe no one on the Flames is interested in working with a big tool.
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11-10-2016, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Yeah I don't see his value as a coach. He was a very skilled guy that had a chip on his shoulder but he was far from the most committed player off the ice as he lived off his natural talent for the most part.
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Theo was dedicated on and off the ice towards his NHL career. He put on 15-20 lbs of muscle after his rookie season. Theo was many things, but saying he wasn't committed to his career is not one of them.
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11-10-2016, 04:23 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Garnet Hathaway works with Stride Envy in Maine
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11-10-2016, 11:31 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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Awesome thread idea. Please don't eff up the direction with debate on degrees of lameness of fleury.
Just repetitive work on board battles. Great skill to pick up. Its that ability to eye hand a bouncing puck. Which side of player to be on. Which way to go with it.
Doesnt everyone want to work with Roberts in summer. Is it an application process?
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11-11-2016, 08:58 AM
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Originally Posted by Trailer Fire
Theo was dedicated on and off the ice towards his NHL career. He put on 15-20 lbs of muscle after his rookie season. Theo was many things, but saying he wasn't committed to his career is not one of them.
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Muscle is one thing but for much of his career Theo's conditioning was not great and he didn't always come to camp ready to go.
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11-11-2016, 10:55 AM
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another quote from an article on Oates:
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He and the players sign a contract stating they will not discuss their NHL team's system. Oates was an NHL coach and he is aware of how an outside voice on systems would negatively impact a coach. They work specifically on having the right stick, shooting, passing and puck retrieval techniques, and other skill plays that can benefit whatever system their NHL head coach wants to use.
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Does it matter what sort of mess Fleury's personal life was/is in his ability to coach specific hockey skills....
Oates's role does not at all seem to be a life coach role; he is a hockey skills coach.
almost all teams have hired a goalie skill coach that works one on one with the goalies but not a skills coach.
Would it be worth-while for the Flames to hire Trottier as a personal face-off coach for Monahan and Bennett and give him an hour or so a week with these players?
I would think that Monahan pay checks are large enough to pay for this on his own? Maybe it already is happening.
With the accelerated rate that the Flames are moving to the NHL (Bennett, Monahan, Tkachuck) is there an assumption that their skill development was complete at age 18?
Last edited by ricardodw; 11-11-2016 at 10:58 AM.
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