11-09-2016, 06:39 PM
|
#661
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by icecube
How the #### would you know?
|
No one can know for sure, but it does sound fake as hell.
|
|
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:40 PM
|
#662
|
|
The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by taco.vidal
|
I actually was thinking similar thoughts today, moreso about women.
During the campaign there seemed to be some good discussion around abuse going on.
Most people believe Trump did the things to women he bragged about. But they still voted for him. So the message to girls and women is if you're assaulted, don't bother reporting it because at best there'll be no consequences and more than likely you'll be called a liar, have your past behaviour put under a microscope, be threatened and vilified on social media, risk financial ruin by lawsuits, be objectified and belittled because you aren't even attractive enough to abuse in the first place... Just take the abuse.
It makes me want to cry, and I don't have to live it.
__________________
Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position.
But certainty is an absurd one.
|
|
|
|
|
The Following 13 Users Say Thank You to photon For This Useful Post:
|
#22,
BloodFetish,
Burninator,
calculoso,
calgaryblood,
DeluxeMoustache,
East Coast Flame,
gallione11,
socalwingfan,
surferguy,
Thor,
Titan,
worth
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:40 PM
|
#663
|
|
In the Sin Bin
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by icecube
How the #### would you know?
|
In fairness, nearly every report of extremist behaviours is being reported on Snopes as false.
It is entirely believable the story Rubecube posted is true, but the amount of FUD in the air today understandably results in a higher degree of skepticism.
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:41 PM
|
#664
|
|
Lifetime Suspension
|
This thread moved too fast to follow in detail today so this may have been posted several times. You can always enjoy it again and again though.
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:41 PM
|
#665
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by photon
I'm starting to come around to this Clinton being the wrong candidate because she's so disliked. To me so much emphasis on it is just as silly as debates being a major criteria for choosing a president (or anything for that matter, debates are the worst venue for anything), I want to choose a candidate based on competency, policy, history, as well as communication skills.
But I'm far from a typical voter, and I understand that right or wrong it's the way the world works.
But I don't see how fighting populism with populism (by putting forward a populist liberal) in a country where the divide between the left right continues to widen is a good solution. Already the difference between left and right is less "my ideas differ from theirs" and more "if you're one of them you can't be one of us".
Being part of the rise of nationalistic xenophobic populism around the world doesn't seem like a good path forward.
|
Because you're seeing poor white people as a partisan issue when it's not. Sanders' and Trump's message were both speaking to that group. They both had a legitimate anti-establishment message. Clinton's never was.
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:42 PM
|
#666
|
|
#1 Goaltender
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Trudeau is not a populist leader. He is practically the embodiment of the political mainstream.
|
Lots of trump voters in Indiana feel the same way about trump.
My point is that if you are in Canada you were not exposed to the coverage Americans had. The national post and the globe were as awful as Fox News. All three only care about clicks and eyes, and as a result, just feed their typical audience with what they want to hear or read, there's broader stories, balanced view points but the goal isn't to provide that.
Both were absolutely awful candidates. I didn't want trump to win, but I know the struggle many US voters had.
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:43 PM
|
#667
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by icecube
How the #### would you know?
|
smell test
__________________
|
|
|
|
|
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to corporatejay For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:43 PM
|
#668
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
|
It's interesting that so many openly extreme right-wing nationalist leaders in Europe are the most happy at the moment. Trump supporters need to forget about the people who are upset the most and look at those that are praising this, and then think about why those people are happy.
__________________
"A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can."
|
|
|
|
|
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to FlamesAddiction For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:45 PM
|
#669
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iggy City
There are anti Trump protests in multiple cities across US.
I wonder if all these people voted...
Should Trump address them? They'll probably whither away in a couple days haha
|
I think people are still in shock and haven't had time to process that it's not the end of the world they think it is. As Obama said, the sun rose this morning, and it will rise again tomorrow.
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:45 PM
|
#670
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
It's interesting that so many openly extreme right-wing nationalist leaders in Europe are the most happy at the moment. Trump supporters need to forget about the people who are upset the most and look at those that are praising this, and then think about why those people are happy.
|
I don't think that's going to shed any further light on who they supported.
To some of them, this was chemo, it makes you sick as hell but it's necessary.
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:46 PM
|
#671
|
|
First Line Centre
|
...and the extreme leftists on the US west coast are starting to set **** on fire.
__________________
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Yamer
Even though he says he only wanted steak and potatoes, he was aware of all the rapes.
|
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:46 PM
|
#672
|
|
Powerplay Quarterback
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
It's interesting that so many openly extreme right-wing nationalist leaders in Europe are the most happy at the moment. Trump supporters need to forget about the people who are upset the most and look at those that are praising this, and then think about why those people are happy.
|
They're happy that with the US showing that it's possible to beat the establishment, that they can too.
|
|
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:49 PM
|
#673
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames in 07
Lots of trump voters in Indiana feel the same way about trump.
.
|
But has he ever even held a political position before?
Trudeau grew up in politics and was heavily involved for more than a decade. To a certain degree, every politician in a democracy tries to tap into populism a little bit, but when you look at the populist movement in the U.S. and Europe right now, Trudeau looks nothing like them.
__________________
"A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can."
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:49 PM
|
#674
|
|
NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
It's interesting that so many openly extreme right-wing nationalist leaders in Europe are the most happy at the moment. Trump supporters need to forget about the people who are upset the most and look at those that are praising this, and then think about why those people are happy.
|
why would that upset Trump supporters? They're all right-wing and fighting for the same thing.
__________________
Watching the Oilers defend is like watching fire engines frantically rushing to the wrong fire
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:50 PM
|
#675
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds
...and the extreme leftists on the US west coast are starting to set **** on fire.
|
only breitbart reporting.
__________________
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:50 PM
|
#676
|
|
The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
Trump is richer than Romney! How did he become the 'in touch everyman candidate'? Books will be written on this.
|
Because he said he was, over and over and over. That's the 'art of the deal', or rather the art of the con. Add in pinches of nationalism and xenophobia to an increasingly brown country.
Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
Because you're seeing poor white people as a partisan issue when it's not. Sanders' and Trump's message were both speaking to that group. They both had a legitimate anti-establishment message. Clinton's never was.
|
Right, I'm not saying it is a partisan issue, I'm saying that the suggestion is that if the Dems wanted to win, Bernie would have scratched the same non-partisan itch, Clinton was just the same thing over again, I get that. I'm saying I don't think that that whole scenario is a good thing. Populism is polarizing, regardless of if it's on the right or the left, and polarization is already a big concern.
__________________
Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position.
But certainty is an absurd one.
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:50 PM
|
#677
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
It's interesting that so many openly extreme right-wing nationalist leaders in Europe are the most happy at the moment. Trump supporters need to forget about the people who are upset the most and look at those that are praising this, and then think about why those people are happy.
|
Pffft. They are happy that the anti-Establishment candidate won, which gives their narrative more credibility/hope. They would have been happy if Bernie beat Romney too.
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:54 PM
|
#678
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by photon
Because he said he was, over and over and over. That's the 'art of the deal', or rather the art of the con. Add in pinches of nationalism and xenophobia to an increasingly brown country.
Right, I'm not saying it is a partisan issue, I'm saying that the suggestion is that if the Dems wanted to win, Bernie would have scratched the same non-partisan itch, Clinton was just the same thing over again, I get that. I'm saying I don't think that that whole scenario is a good thing. Populism is polarizing, regardless of if it's on the right or the left, and polarization is already a big concern.
|
Yeah, it's polarizing, but at least a Sanders win (which I'm not sure would happen) is elite vs average citizen polarizing solely. As opposed to that plus racially polarizing.
Honestly, who even knows. This is insanity.
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:59 PM
|
#679
|
|
Franchise Player
|
I love the protestors to the democratically elected president.
Sounds like a bunch of sore losers.
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-2016, 06:59 PM
|
#680
|
|
First Line Centre
|
__________________
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Yamer
Even though he says he only wanted steak and potatoes, he was aware of all the rapes.
|
|
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to 2Stonedbirds For This Useful Post:
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:06 PM.
|
|
