PGT: President-Elect Donald J Trump

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Originally Posted by Weitz

I might be the only one, but I think Trump ran his campaign in the only way he could to have a chance at winning. I said this months ago, but it really was the only way to win.

I think you are right. Trump wasn't going to win a huge minority vote. He found the "missing white voter" and got them out to vote by making them think they can travel back in time by bringing back thousands of factories and making America white again.

Originally Posted by Weitz

I don't think his presidency will be nearly as bad as people think. He is a huge ego guy and won't want to go out as the "worst president ever". I see him being very middle of the ground.

He just had his every thought about himself confirmed, now he knows for sure he's always right about everything, he's not going to start showing restraint now. The places where the other institutions have the least ability to moderate him are the scariest.. foreign policy, trade.. I hope you are right but would it be surprising to anyone if the global order became much more unstable due to Trump?

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

The biggest thing for me is Trump is so clearly sexist and racist, I can't understand how people want him to represent their country. Mind bottling.

he's not racist, that word gets thrown around too liberally these days and that was the big part of this failed campaign. As i mentioned earlier, visible minorities are not a voting block and they are not Democratic party pawns. They vote on issues that effect them just like anyone else.

A 2nd Generation person should be concerned about illegal immigration from Mexico too. Especially if his parents came in legally.

Originally Posted by New Era

Trump ran his campaign on nothing but identity politics. This campaign was won on identity politics and the statistics prove that in spades.

Hillary ran on identity politics too. The fact that the Latino vote is even a thing is identity politics.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by FlameOn View Post
Reports are that Clinton camp did not actually have a concession speech prepared because 'it was a sure thing.' They moved the concession to the morning so they would have time to write one.

Hillary wanted to win so badly she bet the entire country on it.

This wouldn't surprise me at all. After it became apparent that Clinton wasn't going on stage last night I figured that she either didn't have a concession speech or she got absolutely wasted watching the results come in and seeing the White House slip away and wasn't actually capable of going in front of her supporters.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by bossy22

I'm now seeing #buildtheKeystone all over social media and people who were cheering for Trump. I didn't realize I knew that many people in Calgary who were for Trump.

Probably because you were personally attacked if you publicly said you supported Trump.

I know a lot of people who are pro-trump. Mostly people who are fed up with the status quo as has been discussed. If you asked them about any of the crap Trump has said or done that didn't know or didn't care.

[Hack&Lube]

It's funny, this whole election I talked to people about echo chambers and how it caused all of Trumps supporters to band together online into their own private echo chambers of r/the_donald, Fox News, pro-Trump pundits/conspiracy theorists, etc. and all buy into that reality.

I forgot to leave my own echo chamber of liberal, rational, scientific websites and forums and really explore those and realize how powerful the other sides really were.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by photon

I think you are right. Trump wasn't going to win a huge minority vote. He found the "missing white voter" and got them out to vote by making them think they can travel back in time by bringing back thousands of factories and making America white again.



He just had his every thought about himself confirmed, now he knows for sure he's always right about everything, he's not going to start showing restraint now. The places where the other institutions have the least ability to moderate him are the scariest.. foreign policy, trade.. I hope you are right but would it be surprising to anyone if the global order became much more unstable due to Trump?

It wouldn't be surprising. But I know Russia is happy, France is apparently happy according to ABC last night.. How many other Countries are happy too?

I am really curious whats going to happen... Thank god I only have 1 trip planned to the USA and its next week so he won't be president yet! haha.

[PsYcNeT]

I know quite a few Trump supporters, but most are just hardline right-wing, with a few Anarcho-Libertarian types thrown in that just want to watch the world burn.

I'd say most are anti-Hillary rather than pro-Trump however.

[Hyde]

Bernie may of won, though he lost the primary not, because of "rigging" but that he focused his campaign on white america and how the democrats lost them. He did not have the majority of people of colour. He habitually pivoted to class b/c he firmly believes that Democrats' Achilles heel was engaging in "identity politics" rather than economics. He correctly spoke that most White "working class" voters abandoned the democrats because they don't feel represented if/when civil rights come first. In essence he tired to calm their anxieties about joining a coalition w/POC by assuring them that his focus will be on money, not bigotry. Judging by his overwhelming support from predominately White males, he was exactly right. Only problem is they aren't the Democratic base. As he didn't later broaden his message to include the concerns of POC (expressly bigotry), he never really had a shot wining the nomination.

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Originally Posted by ResAlien

What I find hilarious is the people saying they voted for him because he's going to change Washington or is an outsider. You naïve children, what makes you think a billionaire businessman is going to act against his own self interests and enact any sort of change? The rubes that bought into his narrative are never going to see their reward coming. That's how a con works, you don't know it's a con before it's too late.

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We don't have his tax returns (and he'll never release them) so we don't even know what his interests are and if his decisions are a conflict of interest or not.

His idea of a blind trust for his businesses is to have his kids run them. Blind trust doesn't mean the public is blind to what you're doing behind the curtain.

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Seriously, anyone know how to disable Tapatalk from emailing me about every time someone quotes me?? I can't find it anywhere in the Tapatalk settings.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Even if things are worse for them, they will never admit it because Fox News will keep telling them it is fine. Plus, all trump has to do is build a wall or deport people, and his supporters will be happy.

Yes, he manipulated them, gave them a scapegoat and exploited them to victory. When he fails them, they get to be even more angry. Nothing's getting better out of this.

[MRCboicgy]

Originally Posted by GGG

They don't prove that though. He attracted roughly the same number of white voters as Romney did. Trump performed like the typical republican who wins the presidency.

6.8 million fewer black voters came out than voted for Obama

was it apathy? Suppression? both?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by photon

Seriously, anyone know how to disable Tapatalk from emailing me about every time someone quotes me?? I can't find it anywhere in the Tapatalk settings.

Welcome to a Trump presidency.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

Trump ran on identity politics yet Clinton has a vagina and if you have a vagina you must vote for the non ##### grabber.

Give me a break. Dems wrote the book on identity politics.

By all means, argue that the Democrats also ran heavily on identity politics.

Just don't sit there and pretend Trump did not.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

he's not racist, that word gets thrown around too liberally these days and that was the big part of this failed campaign. As i mentioned earlier, visible minorities are not a voting block and they are not Democratic party pawns. They vote on issues that effect them just like anyone else.

A 2nd Generation person should be concerned about illegal immigration from Mexico too. Especially if his parents came in legally.



Hillary ran on identity politics too. The fact that the Latino vote is even a thing is identity politics.

Nope. He is definitely racist, but where we (I) was wrong in assuming only other racists would support him.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by MRCboicgy

6.8 million fewer black voters came out than voted for Obama

was it apathy? Suppression? both?

Probably, that and ever increasing gerrymandering disenfranchising those who live in a district/county where their vote quite literally doesn't matter.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

I find it absolutely mindboggling that a freaking prison has a publicly traded stock. Obviously nothing new but it just seems so odd.

They're actually really good stocks too, from a pure investment standpoint. Besides the obvious crash when Hillary was taking the lead. Stable growth, good dividends.

I mean, I refuse to own any of them, but if someone didn't care about the horrific morality behind it, it's a good investment.

[IliketoPuck]

Quite the throat punch to the regressive left.

The star of the Apprentice is going to be the next POTUS.

What a time to be alive.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

he's not racist, that word gets thrown around too liberally these days and that was the big part of this failed campaign. As i mentioned earlier, visible minorities are not a voting block and they are not Democratic party pawns. They vote on issues that effect them just like anyone else.

A 2nd Generation person should be concerned about illegal immigration from Mexico too. Especially if his parents came in legally.



Hillary ran on identity politics too. The fact that the Latino vote is even a thing is identity politics.

If anything, Trump is protectionist, not racist. I have to admit that I used to be a fan of The Apprentice. I remember when The_Only_Turek_Fan had Trumps' assistant Carolyn as his avatar and I was kind of a fan too in that time. I went back and read his writings in the 80s, all his interviews in the 80s. It was the exact same thing as today. American jobs, foreign powers not paying for the national defense America is paying for, and back then - it was the Japanese he was against (instead of China)...supposedly flooding the US with their cars and VCRs.

Keeping both legal and illegal immigrants out was a way to appeal to that part of his base that were potentially racist but also basically just a protectionist rant.

That's why I'm unsure of whether or not he's actually good for the Canadian O&G industry. If anything, he would be protectionist of American oil interests and not Canadian ones. He has threatened to increase taxes and leavies on foreign products.

[puckedoff]

You guys are so melodramatic. This sun will still rise, life goes on. Despite what the media has told you, Trump is not going to burn America to the ground.