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Old 11-07-2016, 12:50 PM   #5621
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I see the conservative saltiness is already starting. Assuming Hillary wins these next few months may be utterly intolerable.

If she wins it is not by default because the GOP decided to put forth the single worst presidential candidate in any of our lifetimes, although that certainly doesn't hurt. I'm sure the narrative that she would have lost to anyone else will keep getting pushed for no less than the next four years.
Given the relative qualities of the candidates, anything less than a 538-0 victory should be cause to mourn for the future of the USA, not celebrate as a victory. Hillary could have won over many of the GOP contenders...but she should be much farther ahead against this particular opponent.

Hillary might (should) win, but the entire exercise is a loss for the country. When you're driving your car and you have a "near collision" ...you don't throw a party, you go home and hug your loved ones.
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You want to see something utterly disgusting, watch this video of racism in Memphis on display.

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Given the relative qualities of the candidates, anything less than a 538-0 victory should be cause to mourn for the future of the USA, not celebrate as a victory. Hillary could have won over many of the GOP contenders...but she should be much farther ahead against this particular opponent.

Hillary might (should) win, but the entire exercise is a loss for the country. When you're driving your car and you have a "near collision" ...you don't throw a party, you go home and hug your loved ones.
In theory yes but in reality this is partisan politics. The Republican nominee could be a Neo Nazi Doberman whose platform is "we're going to kill all babies under the age of 3 and also I want to poop in your mouth" and 40+% of the country would vote for it.
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I think while we will probably see some increase in targeting Mexicans and Muslims, most Trump supporters are keyboard warriors who won't do anything but go back into the bubble to piss and moan some more. We all thought we'd see issues after Obama won, and they really did nothing. Basically most fake tough people support Trump, they don't actually have the heart to do anything.
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I can see your point. However, if the election is very close it will give the GOP even more excuses to obstruct, not that they've ever needed an actual reason.

edit- just re-read what you said, and you're hoping for a Trump victory? Weird.
No, I'm hoping for a Johnson/Weld victory, but I'm realistic enough to know that won't happen.

So what I'm realistically hoping for is a Clinton/Kaine electoral victory, but a Trump/Pence popular vote victory, and the Republicans maintaining control of the Congress.
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American election data boggles my mind quite a bit. I've been watching CNN today and a lot of discussion is about early voting patterns and who has/hasn't voted. Where does this data come from? How does the various organizations/media know that x% of the early vote has been Republicans and y% has been Democrats?

At one point CNN had a reporter at some sort of Hispanic voting organization in Nevada. This organization apparently had a list of Hispanic voters which was cross referenced against a list of Hispanics who voted early and they were calling the Hispanics who had not voted early in order to pressure them to vote tomorrow.

It appears to me that a lot of private information gets passed around.
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American election data boggles my mind quite a bit. I've been watching CNN today and a lot of discussion is about early voting patterns and who has/hasn't voted. Where does this data come from? How does the various organizations/media know that x% of the early vote has been Republicans and y% has been Democrats?

At one point CNN had a reporter at some sort of Hispanic voting organization in Nevada. This organization apparently had a list of Hispanic voters which was cross referenced against a list of Hispanics who voted early and they were calling the Hispanics who had not voted early in order to pressure them to vote tomorrow.

It appears to me that a lot of private information gets passed around.
It is part of the process in place to prevent voter fraud. People are registered to vote in advance for the most part. People that register for a paper or advanced ballots have to return or vote before a certain date so they can be crossed off of lists to prevent double voting. Once you vote, your name comes off the list afforded to both parties as someone who intends to vote. At that point, you don't matter any more and, there is a bright side, you no longer receive robo calls and such communications.
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American election data boggles my mind quite a bit. I've been watching CNN today and a lot of discussion is about early voting patterns and who has/hasn't voted. Where does this data come from? How does the various organizations/media know that x% of the early vote has been Republicans and y% has been Democrats?

At one point CNN had a reporter at some sort of Hispanic voting organization in Nevada. This organization apparently had a list of Hispanic voters which was cross referenced against a list of Hispanics who voted early and they were calling the Hispanics who had not voted early in order to pressure them to vote tomorrow.

It appears to me that a lot of private information gets passed around.
Exit polling mostly.

Also American party-affiliations (eg. "Registered Democrat") are public.
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https://www.thestar.com/news/world/u...-he-loses.html



Can't wait to see the creative means of "civil protest" that come in the wake of a Trump loss.
I think it's funny when people think 911 is for telling on people and not for reporting emergencies.

I know potentially clogging up the lines while actual emergencies are happening isn't funny, but the stupidity just makes me laugh.
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I think it's funny when people think 911 is for telling on people and not for reporting emergencies.

I know potentially clogging up the lines while actually emergencies are happening isn't funny, but the stupidity just makes me laugh.
But it speaks to why Trump is so popular. Being petty and vindictive are qualities the GOP base seems to admire quite a bit.
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American election data boggles my mind quite a bit. I've been watching CNN today and a lot of discussion is about early voting patterns and who has/hasn't voted. Where does this data come from? How does the various organizations/media know that x% of the early vote has been Republicans and y% has been Democrats?
Voter registration records are maintained by the state governments I believe and are either public or easily obtainable by polling and political organizations (unsure which).

That's how Trump can say there's 1.8 million dead people registered to vote (which is probably true).

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You want to see something utterly disgusting, watch this video of racism in Memphis on display.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/stor...iral/93417938/
First thought when I viewed that was "double false flag". I half expect info to come out soon that they're Clinton supporters making something up to make Trump supporters look bad, and then find out that they're actually Trump supporters that did that and intentionally leaked to make Clinton look bad. That's how dumb the level of disinformation has gotten.
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Speaking of false flag, Glenn Beck feels like someone who registers on a team's fan site pretending to be a fan of the team but really is a fan of another team.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...es-out-decency
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:32 PM   #5633
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It looks like Clinton will clearly win. This puts me at ease.

The only annoying thing on Wednesday is how everyone in the US will say that it was a huge get for USA to elect a woman president and that this is a historic and monumental moment in the history of the world. It will come off as if the USA were the first country EVER to have a female in the highest office in the land conveniently ignoring that various other countries have already elected women to power and in some instances, multiple times so.

/pre-emptive strike rant
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It looks like Clinton will clearly win. This puts me at ease.

The only annoying thing on Wednesday is how everyone in the US will say that it was a huge get for USA to elect a woman president and that this is a historic and monumental moment in the history of the world. It will come off as if the USA were the first country EVER to have a female in the highest office in the land conveniently ignoring that various other countries have already elected women to power and in some instances, multiple times so.

/pre-emptive strike rant
Even we had a female Prime Minister.
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It looks like Clinton will clearly win. This puts me at ease.

The only annoying thing on Wednesday is how everyone in the US will say that it was a huge get for USA to elect a woman president and that this is a historic and monumental moment in the history of the world. It will come off as if the USA were the first country EVER to have a female in the highest office in the land conveniently ignoring that various other countries have already elected women to power and in some instances, multiple times so.

/pre-emptive strike rant
And the fact that Canada has never elected a female head of state. Or a head of state outside of the British and French ethnic groups. We have nothing on the U.S. in this situation. Canadian politics is more of an "old boys club" than U.S. politics.
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Next up: African American Woman President.
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Dana carvey has a brand new stand up bit on Netflix. Watched some of it last night.. his political impressions are glorious and on point!
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From the latest issue of MacLean's:

Donald Trump’s first 100 days—of non-presidency:

Day 1
Tantrum.

Day 2
As Trump’s epic Twitter meltdown enters its 35th hour, he claims to have lost the presidency on purpose as a marketing stunt for his new cologne: Futility by Trump.
Day 4
After days of investigative work, CNN confirms that Trump’s concession speech was the first in American history to describe voters as a “huge bunch of d**kheads.”
Day 5
Trump takes small comfort in the fact that even though he lost by 200 electoral votes, he can at least stiff his supplier on that last shipment of Make America Great Again hats.


the rest here:
http://www.macleans.ca/politics/wash...on-presidency/
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Jeez, if Donald had had a beard like that he'd probably have won easily.
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