maybe Brodie should make Engelland better and not the other way around and maybe Gio can make Wideman better? The way they're playing I don't think it matters who they play with.
Brodie likes playing his off side. Let him do so. He has always struggled at LD and coaches always come in and try to put him there.
Gio is too busy bailing out Wideman all game to stay focused.
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Our 3 best players from last year had the worst +/- in the game yet again. Time for the coaching staff and leadership to institute some accountability.
Brodie likes playing his off side. Let him do so. He has always struggled at LD and coaches always come in and try to put him there.
Gio is too busy bailing out Wideman all game to stay focused.
That's what bothers me the most. He has outright stated he's more comfortable on the right. Why put him in a position too fail? I highly doubt his weak start is a complete fluke.
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And so do Monahan and Gaudreau......
Players always getting excused by "bad" coaching.
maybe Brodie should make Engelland better and not the other way around and maybe Gio can make Wideman better? The way they're playing I don't think it matters who they play with.
Brodie and Gio are not playing together which is why i'd like to see them back playing as a pair.
Always? I agree that players have some responsibility but there's also something to be said for shuffling the pairings to see if you can find some chemstry.
With the upcoming schedule, in all likelihood, we'll be out of playoff contention by American Thanksgiving. I'm afraid putting the lines in a blender, no matter the combination, isn't going to do much good. When our top 2 offensive weapons can't create anything, our top 2 defenseman are constantly making terrible decisions and special teams are absolutely atrocious, I really don't see how this group does a complete turnaround. Our middle six guys are playing phenomenal, they're probably the main reason we're lucky to have even 4 W's. Barring a monumental return to form by our top guys, it looks like lottery city.
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Can't give Brodie full blame on that third goal hey, need to keep your narrative going on Engelland.
Uh that paragraph isn't about blaming Engelland. It's about how if the score were tied at that moment (as it SHOULD have been if the refs were not making terrible calls), Engelland would not likely have made that pinch, and that entire sequence plays out differently even if Brodie got walked because his D partner would have been there to cover.
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Is this the most frustrating season to date? At least previous teams lacked talent in from top to bottom on the depth chart. On paper we compare with some of the best teams in the league.
It has been for me. I came into the season with very high hopes. I thought that stronger goaltending and a coach focused more on possession and improving our defensive game would be the difference. Instead we are off to another terrible start. Can't even explain how frustrated I am with this group. I hate this team right now. Give me the hard working muckers from 2012-2013 over this group anyday.
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It's based on shot attempts in a certain area of the ice and there is some subjectivity for sure. All stats should be taken with a grain of salt and looked at in context.
Biggest failure of this team right now is special teams. And special teams is in large part coaching.
Frustrating frustrating loss. Thought the flames were the better team the majority of the game, but our top players are letting the team down right now. Few thoughts of mine after tonight's game.
I'm tired of Chiasson on the first line. Tired of him going offside and tired of plays dying with him. Just doesn't have the skill to play up there. Make no mistake I'm not letting Johnny or Monahan off the hook. They both need to be much much better. Just not good enough from either of them. They need to get going and get going quickly. I'd try Versteeg back with them again. I've liked his skill game the last few games.
Wideman, Gio and Brodie just are not getting it done. Put Gio and Brodie back together for the love of God. Give Wideman less ice time. Thought Hamilton was easily the best tonight and he can take up the minutes from Wideman. Thought Jokipakka struggled most of the game. I'd give Kulak a shot next game and if not mind as well send him down.
People are letting the last 10 minutes and the final score skew this game. Flames held a 23-6 edge in scoring chances it's the lack of finish and a couple of poor plays by Brodie that did them in.
Quoted for truth. That was a tough one to lose but it's hardly the disaster it's being made out to be. Calgary showed on back to back games at the United Centre that they can hang with Chicago.
Who counts these things? This is why I don't respect advanced stats. Flames did not have 23 scoring chances the entire game let alone only at ES.
I agree. Everyone loves the buzzwords. Unsustainable. Corsi. Fenwick. PDO. When you're routinely winning the advanced stat battle but losing the games, there's a huge disconnect there. It's easy to say we've just been unlucky and eventually with the law of averages we'll start getting more wins but it sure doesn't look like a team that should have a winning record.
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Tough to know what to make of this team. But good lord is it a mess. Not much going right.
I liked how Bob seemed to employ more of a meritocracy. Gulutzan benched some players after poor play a couple games ago, stupid penalties if I recall. Why doesn't that apply to line 1 and specifically Monahan?
And before people come in and say but Monahan has 4 goals!
Yeah great, but he has had 1 average game in 9 and 8 bad ones. Goals haven't really been very reflective of his play IMO
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They're simply shot attempts either from a specific area in close (some count tipped point shots I believe as well)
Problem is advanced stats guys then use these stats for a different meaning and use them in arguments.
Flames played a pretty good all around game except for the obvious few top players but if they're counting 23 chances to score then the system is flawed.
