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Old 11-01-2016, 09:33 PM   #121
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I'm starting to think the problem is Johnny and Monahan themselves now.
Them and Marc Savard. And Iginla.
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Old 11-01-2016, 09:34 PM   #122
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Put Gio and Brodie back together ffs.
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Don't fret, we got a game at the Honda Center coming up soon. Easy w...d'oh!!!
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Old 11-01-2016, 09:35 PM   #124
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I miss the Flames team that played the 1st period at home against the Oilers
That's was similar to the Flames you saw in the first 40 tonight IMO.

Able to carry the play and look good but not enough finish to actually capitalize on the strong play.

People are letting the last 10 minutes and the final score skew this game. Flames held a 23-6 edge in scoring chances it's the lack of finish and a couple of poor plays by Brodie that did them in.
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Put Gio and Brodie back together ffs.
For double the suck?
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Old 11-01-2016, 09:36 PM   #126
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Strip Monahan of the A and staple it to Backlund.
Agreed. Backlund has been our best all round player this season.
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Old 11-01-2016, 09:36 PM   #127
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Tkachuk looked good for the most part. Be a damn shame if he goes down now

Edit: And of course Backlund and Frolik continue to exceed my wildest expectations for them. They were dominant out there
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Old 11-01-2016, 09:38 PM   #128
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No matter the officiating, this was a team let down after the second goal tonight and very pathetic.

I'm missing the part where the coaches get a free pass for continuing lack of a PP and less than stellar PK.

Here is an idea with Monahan and Gaudreau, sit them and play with 3 lines like GG sat Bennett's like against the Sens. What's the difference Glen? Your top players are not producing, so figure out a way to hold them accountable.

Nothing is impressive except for Backlund and Frolik.
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Old 11-01-2016, 09:39 PM   #129
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For double the suck?
They've been one of the best pairings in the NHL over the past few years. If you don't see the benefit of playing those two together you're as blind as our coaching staff.
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New combinations???

Gaudreau – Backlund – Frolik
Versteeg – Bennett – Brouwer
Tkachuk – Monahan – Ferland
Bouma – Stajan – Chaisson
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Seems like there's no urgency to Gaudreau and Monahans game right now. I don't know what the answer is but They need to get out of their slump and fast, the Cali road trip could put the team back in a hurry. Backlund and Stajan line are the two best right now, even Bennett's line hasn't been impressive. I personally believe Bennett should be back on the wing where he can just focus on being a dynamic forward.
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For double the suck?
Are you serious???

They have a history of playing very well together as a duo.
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Old 11-01-2016, 09:41 PM   #133
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Is this the most frustrating season to date? At least previous teams lacked talent in from top to bottom on the depth chart. On paper we compare with some of the best teams in the league.
yup. My sentiments too. For the past 3 seasons, we've all gone in with little to no expectations. This was a team that, on paper, had all the right ingredients.

however, almost everything all permutations of failure have been seen from crappy goaltending, bad special teams, poor defensive play, to our best offensive players going completely cold, our best defensemen being terrible.

it's only 10 games in, but with the rough november schedule, i'm already starting to feel this is just another rebuilding year.
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Old 11-01-2016, 09:42 PM   #134
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Missed the game tonight, saw it was tied 1-1 almost half way through the third, see the final score is 5-1 Hawks.

So how we all doing? Full on panic mode?
This was by far the best game the Flames have played all year. If the refs didn't ignore some blatant interferences/trips, while making up penalties at the other end, the Hawks don't score second goal / game winner. They don't score that, and Engelland doesn't make a terrible pinch to cost the third goal (yes Brodie screwed up the coverage but it happens, Elliott could have made a save there too, it was just a bad sequence of events)._, and the Flames don't have to pull the goalie on the fourth goal. Dunno about the fifth goal, I wasn't watching at that point.

Overall my biggest frustration is our PK though. It's the same old crap no matter what D is there, they just always led the puck get to the single most dangeorus area (tips in front of the net) while being too focused on the half circle area like everyone is Steven Stamkos or Alex Ovechkin. I am not sure why but they just don't seem to trust their goalie to make a pedestrian save and it ends up backfiring on them.

That said, the Flames playing well does not excuse Gulutzan's player usage. There are some serious issues that are starting to drive me nuts:

- Giordano/Engelland on PK1. Neither guy is getting the job done when they need to. Put anybody else there any see what they can do. Brodie has been our best PKing D this season IMO, put him on the left. i am not sure what to do with the right of that PK1, all our RD seem to suck at D coverage, it's terrible when Wideman is probably your best defensive right D because he is not very good at it.

- Gaudreau/Monahan. They not only don't have chemistry and total inability at generating sustained pressure, but it's impossible to find a winger for them. So let's break them up.

- Trailing by a goal(+) and not shortening the rotations. Engelland might be able to help a team turtle with a lead, but he nor Jokipakka are great options to spark a comeback. Watch the Kings, when they are behind Darryl Sutter reunites Muzzin and Doughty, who are normally separated. Playing as the score dictates does not mean you are abandoning the game plan. It means you are maximizing your chance of scoring a goal with time winding down. Same goes for the fourth line. I love what they have done this season but when you are behind you have to bench the players who are least likely to create dangerous plays and that is absolutely true of Stajan, Bouma, and Chiasson in particular. You need to shorten the bench. And when you have not scored a 5v5 goal across 50+ minutes you need to get out the blender because the players need to feel a sense of "something is different right now".

- General love affair with Chiasson. The guy is awful and has no business on a top line.

- Monahan on PP1. He's just not doing anything, and he's taking Brouwer out of his favourite area which means three left shots all playing the primary areas. Brouwer was signed to be a right shot on the PP, then put him somewhere where that is actually useful. Use Tkachuk as the screen man and demote Monahan to PP2
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Another game with Wideman in the lineup, another game with unfair officiating. You don't say
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Old 11-01-2016, 09:46 PM   #136
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Are you serious???

They have a history of playing very well together as a duo.
And so do Monahan and Gaudreau......


Players always getting excused by "bad" coaching.

maybe Brodie should make Engelland better and not the other way around and maybe Gio can make Wideman better? The way they're playing I don't think it matters who they play with.
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This was by far the best game the Flames have played all year. If the refs didn't ignore some blatant interferences/trips, while making up penalties at the other end, the Hawks don't score second goal / game winner. They don't score that, and Engelland doesn't make a terrible pinch to cost the third goal (yes Brodie screwed up the coverage but it happens, Elliott could have made a save there too, it was just a bad sequence of events)._, and the Flames don't have to pull the goalie on the fourth goal. Dunno about the fifth goal, I wasn't watching at that point.
Can't give Brodie full blame on that third goal hey, need to keep your narrative going on Engelland.

If you want to blame him for something at least blame him for the piss poor coverage on the 2nd goal.

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And so do Monahan and Gaudreau......


Players always getting excused by "bad" coaching.

maybe Brodie should make Engelland better and not the other way around and maybe Gio can make Wideman better? The way they're playing I don't think it matters who they play with.
Or maybe they are at their best playing together? Considering winning games is the end goal, why #### with that?
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WTF! After the the first 50 minutes I was like...




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