10-18-2016, 12:17 AM
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#781
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by indes
Lol, I highly doubt the NHL or the other owners are impressed with a coach turning a blind eye to the CBA. It's 4 days a year and it's not even a week into the season, such unwarranted drama. Typical oilers to #### with one of the very few things the players are in control of during the season.
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I think it's four days a month.
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10-18-2016, 12:29 AM
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#782
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: So Long, Bannatyne
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Originally Posted by FLAMESRULE
Excellent!! And the CIRCLE OF SUCK continues!!
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10-18-2016, 12:33 AM
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#783
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by blender
Didn't the oilers do something really similar last season?
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McLellan alluded to it in a presser late last year, one of the ones where he went off on his team, or maybe it was the beatdown by the Flames....but said he can't cancel the day off because of rules. I don't think he cares this time around, when he sees the players getting lit up with a dose of reality against Buffalo after those same players were enjoying the shameless media up there sniffing their butts after the first two games.
I still think he's a good guy, but, like so many players and managers before him (Erik Cole, Pronger, Renney, Quinn, Souray, Perron etc etc) who arrived to fanfare but quietly and some not so quietly, exited quickly, he got sold a bill of goods in order to joint the team, that was far from reality when he set foot in the door. A scenario with the total lack of discipline, team concept and confidence in every regard, of once decently skilled players who were wasting away and regressing. Players that they basically had to give away, and some on the team that he can't give away, that are still driving him nuts, and of course, now he's "stuck".
Last edited by browna; 10-18-2016 at 12:36 AM.
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10-18-2016, 12:34 AM
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#784
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by bob-loblaw
I think it's four days a month.
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You are correct.
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10-18-2016, 03:56 AM
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#785
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by blender
Didn't the oilers do something really similar last season?
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I recall a CBA violation for a Boxing day practice or something from a couple years ago...maybe?
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10-18-2016, 07:33 AM
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#786
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by browna
McLellan alluded to it in a presser late last year, one of the ones where he went off on his team, or maybe it was the beatdown by the Flames....but said he can't cancel the day off because of rules. I don't think he cares this time around, when he sees the players getting lit up with a dose of reality against Buffalo after those same players were enjoying the shameless media up there sniffing their butts after the first two games.
I still think he's a good guy, but, like so many players and managers before him (Erik Cole, Pronger, Renney, Quinn, Souray, Perron etc etc) who arrived to fanfare but quietly and some not so quietly, exited quickly, he got sold a bill of goods in order to joint the team, that was far from reality when he set foot in the door. A scenario with the total lack of discipline, team concept and confidence in every regard, of once decently skilled players who were wasting away and regressing. Players that they basically had to give away, and some on the team that he can't give away, that are still driving him nuts, and of course, now he's "stuck".
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Unless he's just as stupid as the player (Pouliot) he accused of being stupid there's no way McLellan didn't know what he was getting into when he took that job. He was hired specifically to correct those issues and to date has failed and it's on him as much as it is the players because the way he's going about things is not the way you get men to respect and follow your lead. Darryl Sutter was tough on his players but you he never pulled stunts like this and never embarrassed players in the media. That's the difference between a mediocre coach and a great coach.
Last edited by Erick Estrada; 10-18-2016 at 07:35 AM.
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10-18-2016, 07:59 AM
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#787
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Unless he's just as stupid as the player (Pouliot) he accused of being stupid there's no way McLellan didn't know what he was getting into when he took that job. He was hired specifically to correct those issues and to date has failed and it's on him as much as it is the players because the way he's going about things is not the way you get men to respect and follow your lead. Darryl Sutter was tough on his players but you he never pulled stunts like this and never embarrassed players in the media. That's the difference between a mediocre coach and a great coach.
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that's an unfair comparison. One guy is a proven top coach in the league, and a multi-cup winner. The other, well the precedent is that good teams are finally able to emerge once he leaves 
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10-18-2016, 08:32 AM
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#788
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by bubbsy
that's an unfair comparison. One guy is a proven top coach in the league, and a multi-cup winner. The other, well the precedent is that good teams are finally able to emerge once he leaves |
The Oilers will break that precedent...
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10-18-2016, 08:47 AM
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#789
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
I recall a CBA violation for a Boxing day practice or something from a couple years ago...maybe?
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Yup. Which is another reason why the NHLPA is going to go after them. The Oilers already have a history of violating the CBA. The problem is that the NHL won't hold them accountable for it.
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10-18-2016, 08:54 AM
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#790
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Franchise Player
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Some hefty fines to Katz ought to do the trick.
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10-18-2016, 08:55 AM
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#791
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Oh excellent, I eagerly anticipate this years Christmas day oilers practice.
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10-18-2016, 09:16 AM
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#792
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fort McMurray, AB
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Some hefty fines to Katz ought to do the trick.
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Really though, what would that matter in the whole scope of things? Any fine levied surely wouldn't be more than the equivalent of me being fined a half a penny for some misdeed.
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10-18-2016, 09:18 AM
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#793
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First Line Centre
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Unless the players handle this correctly it has the ability to create a divide in the room. Let's see how McCaptain handles it. If he screws it up it could hurt the team, at least in the short term.
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10-18-2016, 09:23 AM
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#794
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by schteve_d
Really though, what would that matter in the whole scope of things? Any fine levied surely wouldn't be more than the equivalent of me being fined a half a penny for some misdeed.
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If you hit him with a 200k fine, he may politely ask McLellan to start respecting the rules of the CBA.
Even if that's a 100 bucks to him relatively speaking, no one likes losing money because of a avoidable circumstance.
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10-18-2016, 12:27 PM
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#795
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First Line Centre
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I don´t get McLellan´s overreaction. As bad as the Flames were in those first two games, the Oilers still gave up 8 goals. They scored a lot but half their goals were thanks to McJuicebox. Their d is still terrible and the first two games should have reinforced that, regardless of what McSquishy did offensively
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10-18-2016, 01:09 PM
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#796
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broke the first rule
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The players told him, not verbally, but physically, that this was ok to do.
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10-18-2016, 01:11 PM
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#797
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by calf
The players told him, not verbally, but physically, that this was ok to do.
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Visually?
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10-18-2016, 01:15 PM
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#798
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broke the first rule
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10-18-2016, 01:17 PM
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#799
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by calf
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Oh my God.
Seriously?
Goddamn it Edmonton. Just when you think they've hit rock bottom they manage to find a way to dig deeper.
The Edmonton Oilers: The gift that just keeps on giving.
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This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.
The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans
If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
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10-18-2016, 01:29 PM
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#800
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broke the first rule
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Originally Posted by Locke
Oh my God.
Seriously?
Goddamn it Edmonton. Just when you think they've hit rock bottom they manage to find a way to dig deeper.
The Edmonton Oilers: The gift that just keeps on giving.
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To be fair, that's from when Over McRated was named captain of Team NA, not for this practice debacle.
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