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Old 10-17-2016, 04:03 AM   #2701
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It's on his facebook. It happened friday. A metro reporter has asked him to speak with him. It's a pretty detailed account of what happened. Does not strike me as made up.

https://www.facebook.com/andrew.brookman.14?fref=ts
I would take that with the proverbial grain of salt.

This is obviously a guy who likes attention and likes to provoke people (going around wearing a Trump hat in Canada says enough about that, there's really no other reason to walk around in what is a pretty ugly cap), and now has a story that also boosts his political narrative. When something fits one narrative too nicely...

From his own words I would also pretty safely assume he wasn't attacked for wearing a hat, but because he provoked someone verbally. Probably unintentionally, but still. So basically I'm calling the guy a dick who is now shocked that being a dick can bring on physical violence.

It's not okay that being a dick verbally can bring on physical violence. I'm okay with it being news, because stuff like this is news too rarel.

But it doesn't really sound like it's about the hat. And I wouldn't be so sure it's really about politics even.

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Maybe he needs to bring out his Hispanic to help improve his approval

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Of course you don't, because you are a left wing fascist of questionable character. How do you know this guy or his personal beliefs?
Well this takes the cake. Nice oxymoron. You continue to make claims without posting anything of substance to back it up. If all of this garbage, and it is a total load of conspiracy theory garbage, had any legitimacy they would have found traction long ago. You've "done your homework" but it doesn't amount to a hill of beans. When you submit your homework to your teacher and it is discovered that all your answers are wrong, your work is useless.

You may have a right to your opinion, but you do not have a right to your own facts, and all you do is try and present your own opinion as fact. This is why you can't present anything of substance to back up your conspiracy theories, there is nothing there that has not been thoroughly covered and previously vetted. If you have nothing substantive to add to the discussion it's time to move on and stop trolling.
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Didn't he say he was done yesterday? That sure is a lot of words that say "I don't care" over and over.
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REVEALED: The vast international conspiracy to stop Trump, in one chart



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Not that this is gonna shock anyone even slightly.

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Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner has informally approached one of the media industry’s top dealmakers about the prospect of setting up a Trump television network after the presidential election in November.

Mr Kushner — an increasingly influential figure in the billionaire’s presidential campaign — contacted Aryeh Bourkoff, the founder and chief executive of LionTree, a boutique investment bank, within the past couple of months, according to three people with knowledge of the matter.

Their conversation was brief and has not progressed since, the people said. Mr Bourkoff and Mr Kushner both declined to comment.

However, the approach suggests Mr Kushner and the Republican candidate himself are thinking about how to capitalise on the populist movement that has sprung up around their campaign in the event of an election defeat to Democrat Hillary Clinton next month. Mr Trump has in recent days ramped up his criticism of the “dishonest and distorted” mainstream media, which he accuses of being biased against him in collusion with the Clinton campaign.
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Roger Ailes, the former head of Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News Channel, is a friend of Mr Trump’s but would be prohibited from working on a Trump television venture by the terms of his exit agreement with the news network. He parted company with Fox this summer following an independent investigation into claims he sexually harassed Gretchen Carlson, a former Fox News presenter.

However, Sean Hannity, Mr Trump’s biggest cheerleader on Fox News, would be free to work for a prospective Trump network. Mr Hannity was among several Fox stars, including Bill O’Reilly, with clauses in their contracts allowing them to leave if Mr Ailes did.
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Yes politicians lie, especially career politicians like Hillary who get massive donations from corporate sources. That's one valid reason to vote for Trump over Hillary.Look at her track record dude, it's all there. Wasn't she caught lying about landing under sniper fire in Bosnia? The video tape shows otherwise. She's clearly lying about these emails and somehow escapes prosecution, oh right she got a get out of jail free card from her buddy Obama. She's at best far to incompetent to be president, or she's a just lying criminal shill. Neither is acceptable.

Obama was a disaster, oh but he inherited a mess from Bush right, yeah but he made it even worse. The debt has gone up, the middle east is even more of a mess, racial tension and police tensions have never been higher. Now you have Hillary alluding to going to war with Russia WTF?

She wants to raise taxes and get more money for the government to piss away. You raise taxes and the people have less income to spend, so the economy suffers. If taxes get lowered, maybe businesses will come back and more jobs will be created, at the very least more businesses will be able to stay open or won't leave for other countries. Guaranteeing student loans has only resulted in the price of education to keep going up, that's what happens when you guarantee something, the providers will keep raising the price. Can anybody even defend Obamacare at this point? It needs to be scrapped and actually Trump gave a decent alternative plan at the last debate.

I've listened to the whole tape, and she's laughing about him passing the polygraph and him getting off. Yes I know how public defenders work, it's still despicable defending somebody that did that to a child, somebody that you know for a fact was guilty and you laugh about it. Shame Hillary shame on you.
Trump lies more than Hillary so we should elect trump. - still unadressed
Corporate donations - you do have a point, Hillary does receive money from corporations. What part of her track record would you like me to look at? The place where her foundation director refuses to do political favours for Donets to her foundation or where she opposes citizens United or where she's in favour of the media having free speech? What specific has Hillary done with corporate donations in terms of legislation that you object to.

Taxes - no economist supports Trumps tax plan. This is one of those points that regardless of what you think of Hillary her tax plan is better. It might not work however we know that Trumps won't. Trump also leaves in tax provisions that directly benefit his businesses. I'm open to debate here if you can bring in economists who support trumps taxation policy. She also doesn't want to raise most people's taxes she is raising taxes on people earning more that's 250k (or else 500). And we are also in the lowest taxes era in the last 100 years so yhe argument that it's more money for the government to piss away is false. It's restoring budgets to places where they were able to offer programs.

Trumps alternative to Obamacare was essentially Obamacare. Have competition and force insurance companies to cover people with pre existing conditions. Once you work through the details and realize you need a pool of healthy people to subsidize those with chronic disease in order. Though I think a government option insurance to provide real competition would be the best approach in the US.

I agree with you on student loans. Solution here is to cut tuition in half and cap tution increases at publicly funded universities to the rate of inflation and to have more means tested bursuries.

The tape shows Hillary laughing that she'll never trust a lie detector again. I don't understand how in context you see that tape as a negative. It's nervous laughter about how wrong she was.

Emails -- A republican supporting head of the FBI cleared her of wrong doing. They gave immunity deals to everyone hey could to try to catch her. At some point you have to admit that Hillary is a super genius who is so good at suppressing evidence and manipulating people that she should be president. I mean if you believe all of the conspiracies that you appear to then her ability to escape prosecution and maintain her public image uniquely qualifies her to be president. If she really has this ability to manipulate people from finding the truth then that skill will be amazing when applied to the Russians. So if the US is electing super villain Clinton then the US is getting someone more qualified then regular Hillary and certainly more qualified than Donald Trump.
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Old 10-17-2016, 08:35 AM   #2711
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I'm actually almost willing to consider whether it might be better for everyone if someone simply killed him in the next week or so. I mean, the answer is still no...
Apparently this is what I think of Trump if you get enough drinks in me. Yikes. Surprised no one called me out on this one, even with the caveats... maybe you all just have me on ignore.
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Amazingly, about half of Trump supporters do in fact believe that they're entitled to their own facts.

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If we're being honest, really, both sides think they're entitled to their own facts (Bernie supporters certainly did). Those on the Hillary side of the debate just happen to believe in more "facts" that are actually factual than do Trump supporters.
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Old 10-17-2016, 08:39 AM   #2713
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Colbert was really ahead of his time with "truthiness"
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Colbert made it clear that Trump doesn't fall into this category because he feels Trump doesn't believe in what he says.

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"Trumpiness"
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Obama, Holder to lead post-Trump redistricting campaign

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...ndering-229868

Trump generating something positive, during his election campaign high school graduation rate reaches record high, clearly from Trump's greatness.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...0e8c198a8d061?

That one has a cute slideshow of Obama with kids:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...fbbc8be9cf79/0
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I think I'm going to skip the last debate and pack it in as far as tracking this election. At the end of the day, neither candidate gives me the warm and fuzzies in terms of the US relations to Canada. Hillary will continue to use us as a political hammer stone like Obama did and Trump would destroy us economically and probably force us to build a wall eventually.

This is sad because its like watching two really unsuitable and horrible gladiators in the roman Ampitheatre. At some point you hope that someone gives the thumbs down to both of them.

This process takes way too long to run through, and the quality of the candidates makes me pity the American people and their choices come voting day.
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This would be absolutely huge, a solution to one of the biggest problems with US democracy that no one deals with because it's boring policy wonk stuff. If he could pull it off, solving this one problem would be up there with all of his accomplishments as President.

It's also always been among Obama's biggest pet peeves. Here, he basically blames it for the current dysfunction between the parties.



He also mentioned it in the State of the Union at one point. Can't recall which.
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How Do You Solve a Problem Child Like Donald Trump?

Sound behavioral advice from a child psychologist who is not told that we're talking about a grown presidential candidate.


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Apparently this is what I think of Trump if you get enough drinks in me. Yikes. Surprised no one called me out on this one, even with the caveats... maybe you all just have me on ignore.

Amazingly, about half of Trump supporters do in fact believe that they're entitled to their own facts.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ity/?tid=sm_fb

If we're being honest, really, both sides think they're entitled to their own facts (Bernie supporters certainly did). Those on the Hillary side of the debate just happen to believe in more "facts" that are actually factual than do Trump supporters.

Yup because all US media is biased so depending on what side you believe in, it gets drilled into your head on a daily basis year after year. In 2016 we've reached the extreme.

FOX News does not like Trump so they've been asking tougher questions and Trump and Republican guests are just making fools of themselves. (like Huckabee the other day)
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So, a little info about me... I like to surf this thread during the week to kill time at work. (I know many on CP are the same) On the weekends I will check CP to see if anything noteworthy has happened but don't take the time to read threads like this. I would rather be spending time with my kids than reading on here.

So last weekend this thread went from like 20 to 40 pages while I was gone. But it made sense. there was the debate Sunday night and a lot of info dropped regarding Trumps women problems. So it made for a long read Monday morning, but I felt it was worth it.

Fast forward to today. Here I am going through 10 to 15 pages of posts again. But something is different. I have made it to page 61 and given up. The trolling of illuminaughty is too much for me. And I see this as a prime example of where CP's moderation team should be more aggressive. Perhaps this fellow hasn't broken any rules and insulted people. But he is quite clearly just trolling and has no intentions of having a legitimate discussion. He brings no value to the thread and causes people like me to just stop participating.

Maybe something productive has happened in the next 7 pages, but I doubt it. Can't see this guy as any less annoying than buster.
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