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Old 10-10-2016, 05:35 PM   #321
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I was gonna save this for Wednesday but to hell with it. This is definitely cause for celebration:

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Now to complete the day we just need the AC World Cup Gaudreau video...
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Old 10-10-2016, 05:37 PM   #326
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Any thoughts from the Gio cap deniers?
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Old 10-10-2016, 05:38 PM   #327
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Any thoughts from the Gio cap deniers?
Yeah i admit it....i was wrong. I didn't believe a defenseman could set the ceiling for a forward, but apparently Treliving and Burke have decided otherwise.

It will work for another season or 2, but beyond that, and if the cap grows (which is no guarantee either) it wont be applicable.
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I think they won't hesisitate to pay a player significantly more important to the team than Giordano more than Giordano makes. Bennett is the most likely to break that number in a few years.
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Any thoughts from the Gio cap deniers?
Who cares. Johnny is signed, we have an insane amount of talent on this team locked up long term, and it's time to move beyond this divisive crap.
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Still would have preferred another RFA period.
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Old 10-10-2016, 05:42 PM   #332
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News Update

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Johnny Gaudreau contract:
2016-17: $3M SB, $3.75M salary
17-18: $6.75M
18-19: $6.75M
19-20: $6.75M
20-21: $3.5M SB, $3.25M
21-22: $6.75M

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Johnny Gaudreau's 6-year extension includes a NTC in the final year. Player specifies 5 teams to which he can be traded. #Flames
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Any thoughts from the Gio cap deniers?
It's a negotiating position and not a hard cap. Unless someone has better information the Ecklund on Johnnys eight year number there is still little evidence that the cap exists other than a negotiating position. This deal is essentially the same as a 7yr 50 and a 8yr 60 deal. And even then the flames may have opted for a shorter window with more cap flexibility.

As soon as the flames said there was a gio cap that became the minimum number that Johnny would sign for. Using it as leverage created the settling point of the contract.
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For those worried about term, although 6 years doesn't sounds like a long time, here's a little perspective:

6 years ago:

Taylor Hall was the #1 pick, Calgary didn't have a first rounder thanks to the Jokinen trade (and Johnny wasn't even drafted yet).

Blackhawks won the 1st of their 3 recent cups.

Matt Tkachuk's father was still playing in the league.

Darryl Sutter was still the Flames GM.

The Atlanta Thrashers were still a team.

An overtime/shootout win was worth just as much as a regulation win.

Also, 6 years from now Trump/Hillary will seem like a long lost nightmare with the new president already half way through their 1st term.

Seems far doesn't it?
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2016-17: $3M SB, $3.75M salary
17-18: $6.75M
18-19: $6.75M
19-20: $6.75M
20-21: $3.5M SB, $3.25M
21-22: $6.75M

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Johnny Gaudreau's 6-year extension includes a NTC in the final year. Player specifies 5 teams to which he can be traded. #Flames
Just curious but when does Johnny have to pick those 5 teams?? Would presume it's July 1st going into the last year of the deal?
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Actually it's the same bro
It's really not. And I never took either side of the debate on the theoretical "Gio-cap", so I have no interest in defending it either way.

A "Gio-cap" would basically mean that you could move Giordano and thus get rid of the cap. All Friedman said was that they team didn't want to exceed Giordano's $6.75 million AAV. It's the $6.75 million that is the internal cap and it's just circumstance that it is was Giordano makes. Calling it a "Gio-cap" is dishonest when what it really is is just the current internal team cap. It says nothing about next year of 5 years from now.

There was a time that some players would have it written into their contracts that they would be the highest paid player on the team and therefore there really were caps based on what one individual player makes. That is not what is happening here.
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Old 10-10-2016, 05:47 PM   #337
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For those worried about term, although 6 years doesn't sounds like a long time, here's a little perspective:

6 years ago:

Taylor Hall was the #1 pick, Calgary didn't have a first rounder thanks to the Jokinen trade (and Johnny wasn't even drafted yet).

Blackhawks won the 1st of their 3 recent cups.

Matt Tkachuk's father was still playing in the league.

Darryl Sutter was still the Flames GM.

The Atlanta Thrashers were still a team.

An overtime/shootout win was worth just as much as a regulation win.

Also, 6 years from now Trump/Hillary will seem like a long lost nightmare with the new president already half way through their 1st term.

Seems far doesn't it?
What if Hilary gets re-elected because Scott Baio somehow gets the republican nomination?
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within 6 years the 3rd period might go 4 on 4. 3 on 3 overtime might be 10 minutes.

Hockey gets faster and more open and that it's advantageous to the Flames.
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So glad this thing is over, it loomed heavy over camp and sucked any excitement out of what is traditionally the brightest and bushiest time of year. The unmitigated positivity that September brings just wasn't there.

It's interesting/funny how six years isn't seen as that long of a term anymore. When Regher signed that five year deal in the summer of 2003 it was very shocking, no one put pen to paper for that long. Summer 2016? Only six years, not committed long term but atleast we have him.

Six years is still a long time in the NHL, it's a long time to get lots done with Gaudreau in the line up. Maybe he's still homeward bound after this deal but that's fine, it's a long damn time away.

Over the moon to have him back in the line up. I still firmly believe you don't build a winner on the wings and Monahan Bennett and the defence will be our backbone, but you pay for offence and this is very much a workable deal, you can live with this and make it work as youngsters like Bennett, Tkachuk and a goalie like Elliot need new deals.

Can't wait for Wednesday. Hoping Gaudreau scores a nasty goal and skates down in the in the Oilers new building in tribute to the departed Nail Yakupov.
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