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devo22 · 10-10-2016, 01:21 PM

I really hope either Parenteau or Pulkkinen is a Flame tomorrow. I think guys like Chiasson can be useful for the team, but I believe both of the above would be upgrades and good enough to play solid top 9 minutes. Both are cheap, no acquisition cost, very little risk - all it costs is a contract. Really hope the Flames are in on this.

Jets4Life · 10-10-2016, 01:22 PM

I woke up late, and thought I was dreaming when I found out they placed Pavelec on waivers, and are running with Hellebuyck. What a Thanksgiving gift for Jets fans from Chevy!

edit: I'll have to change my signature, as Helle is finally free to be an elite goalie in the NHL.

sureLoss · 10-10-2016, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Samuelsson

Out of curiosity, is there a waiting period between when players on the waiver wire are announced and when a team can start putting in claims? If not then surely we would have heard some news already on *our new potential top-line RW*!!

When the NHL announces the waiver wire everyday at 12 ET noon, teams have 24 hours to put in a claim.

If one team puts in a claim, it is easy that team gets the player.

If multiple teams put in a claim then the team who is lower in ths standings gets the player (it the waiver claim is before November 1st, last season's standings are used).

That is why they can't announce a waiver claim until the 24 hours is up. They need to wait until all teams have had a chance to put in a claim.

Yes even if the team with the highest waiver priority has already put in a claim, because there are trade implications related to a waiver claimed player and other teams that have put in a claim on said player.

bigrangy · 10-10-2016, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by devo22

I really hope either Parenteau or Pulkkinen is a Flame tomorrow. I think guys like Chiasson can be useful for the team, but I believe both of the above would be upgrades and good enough to play solid top 9 minutes. Both are cheap, no acquisition cost, very little risk - all it costs is a contract. Really hope the Flames are in on this.

I hope they both get claimed by the Flames. Demote Vey and Bollig, paper Bennett, don't sign Grossmann and there should be space for both.

I bet that they both get claimed by teams ahead of the Flames in the waiver order though.

keratosis · 10-10-2016, 01:27 PM

Nm answered way better by sureloss.

Zoller · 10-10-2016, 02:05 PM

So with Vey waived and Bollig most likely waived would we be able to pick up both PA and Pulkkinen. Or does that put us over the limit?

dammage79 · 10-10-2016, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoller

So with Vey waived and Bollig most likely waived would we be able to pick up both PA and Pulkkinen. Or does that put us over the limit?

You get one of those players if you put a claim on 2. You then go to the back of the line for the second player.

sureLoss · 10-10-2016, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

You get one of those players if you put a claim on 2. You then go to the back of the line for the second player.

No. Claiming a player off waivers does not put a team at the back of the line

Flames could end up with both if they put a claim on each one.

AC · 10-10-2016, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

You get one of those players if you put a claim on 2. You then go to the back of the line for the second player.

I don't think that's true anymore.

dammage79 · 10-10-2016, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

No. Claiming a player off waivers does not put you at the back of the line.

Flames could end up with both if they put a claim on each one.

Since when?

sureLoss · 10-10-2016, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

Since when?

since at least the 2005 cba. maybe earlier.

GioforPM · 10-10-2016, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

No. Claiming a player off waivers does not put a team at the back of the line. Waiver priority in the NHL is solely based on standings.

Flames could end up with both if they put a claim on each one.

The tricky part then is if they'd like either but not both. Then they have a choice. Do they hedge their bets and place claims for both and hope one gets taken first? Or just make a choice?

Zoller · 10-10-2016, 02:13 PM

edit: NVM

devo22 · 10-10-2016, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

The tricky part then is if they'd like either but not both. Then they have a choice. Do they hedge their bets and place claims for both and hope one gets taken first? Or just make a choice?

put in a claim for both IMO. Don't think both make it to the Flames.

bigrangy · 10-10-2016, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

The tricky part then is if they'd like either but not both. Then they have a choice. Do they hedge their bets and place claims for both and hope one gets taken first? Or just make a choice?

I think they should just go for both, and if they get two, pick someone to waive in the future. They can probably both outperform Chiasson anyways.

ricardodw · 10-10-2016, 02:28 PM

Is 33 year old Parenteau better than a 32 year old Hudler? They both play a no-contact game... so is Parenteau that much better a skater or checker?

Is there supposed to be some magic meshing with Gaudreau and Monahan that Parenteau may have?

Parenteau has 15 playoff games in his career so can't even use the "teach the young players how winners prepare" like Hudler could do.

PS looking on picking up waivered players (last successful with the Leafs) show that the CP fan base is looking at the starting lineup and fighting back some panic. I am reading the comments on this thread correctly?

calgaryblood · 10-10-2016, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by devo22

put in a claim for both IMO. Don't think both make it to the Flames.

Id be shocked if Paranteau got claimed by any team let alone the few above us in the order. If I had to put it in a percentage I'd say less than a 5% chance.

The Original FFIV · 10-10-2016, 02:49 PM

A player of interest would be mark McNeil. Good size and scoring touch to boot. Stuck in a good organization but talent is there. Rh shot.

Wouldn't be surprised if Klas Dahlbeck was claimed by some team for expansion draft purposes. Has already played the requisite 70 games and just needs a one year extension. Maloney would have a good handle on him as he acquired him from Chicago. Maybe he's better than kulak and grossmann.

dissentowner · 10-10-2016, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

A player of interest would be mark McNeil. Good size and scoring touch to boot. Stuck in a good organization but talent is there. Rh shot.

McNeil is terrible, his scoring touch and game never transitioned over from junior. There are much better players to take a chance on than McNeil.

The Original FFIV · 10-10-2016, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dissentowner

McNeil is terrible, his scoring touch and game never transitioned over from junior. There are much better players to take a chance on than McNeil.

Talking about McNeill, not McNeil

20+ goals in two ahl seasons shows he has hands. And is he worse than Vey or Bollig? Probably more upside.