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Old 10-07-2016, 07:29 PM   #121
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Dipiertro had one season where he didn't suck.
Because he was constantly derailed by injury. That was the point he was referring to.

Might have been a bad pick, but looked like a good goalie who couldn't stay healthy.

He's not the worst first-overall pick in recent memory. Just a bad / unlucky one.
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Old 10-07-2016, 07:29 PM   #122
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Agreed. 14 goals and 55 assists sounds good to me.
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I usually try not to pile on the Oilers needlessly but god damn the things they do are so ####ing terrible it's like watching a decade long blooper reel.
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Old 10-07-2016, 07:43 PM   #124
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Unintentional. But after I randomly chose those numbers, I expected comment.
Must have been my sub-conscious.
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Old 10-07-2016, 08:08 PM   #125
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That's the thing about 2012. Even if it's acknowledged that Yakupov was an awful pick, if you go back to that day who would you select instead? Ryan Murray I guess, but he hasn't been lights out amazing. Certainly would have been a million times better than Yakupov in retrospect but no slam dunk alternative selection there.
If I could have any player today from the 2012 draft class it would be Shayne Gostisbehere (3rd round, 78th overall), followed by Filip Forsbeg (11th overall - I still cant believe how badly the Caps got fleeced in that trade). 2012 draft might be the worst draft class in modern NHL history.
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Old 10-07-2016, 08:12 PM   #126
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Nail Yakupov @Nail10_1993
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Old 10-07-2016, 08:54 PM   #127
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Honestly the Oilers need to take away the trading rights on Chia's computer account.

The Reinhart trade was breathtakingly bad

The Hall for Larsson trade isn't a great trade value wise.

Now Yak for a conditional third and a prospect that is so far from the NHL that he's already practicing his "I was a NHL prospect, at his local beer league game"

The only thing he's done well is draft first overall and pick McMenis, which frankly I could have done for a 1/4 of the salary.

Make no mistake, this team looks to be worse then last year especially offensively.
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I don't blame Chia pet for this trade as he inherited the player and it's pretty clear there wasn't a market for him and the coaching staff didn't want to play him anymore as I imagine he would have been placed on waivers had they found no trade suitors. He's a bust and quite honestly that draft was a bust in general as there's not many teams that made out well in that first round.
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"Trading Yakupov allows us to sign Russell. So it's basically like trading Yakupov for Russell." - Oilers Logic
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I would've liked the Flames to get in on this. Even though Yak is not a great player, he's better than guys like Korpikoski and Higgins
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Old 10-07-2016, 09:18 PM   #131
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I would've liked the Flames to get in on this. Even though Yak is not a great player, he's better than guys like Korpikoski and Higgins
The price for the Flames would probably be much higher. If Chia traded him here and he scored 30 goals, he'd be fired for sure.
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Old 10-07-2016, 09:25 PM   #132
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See Yakupov, Hall, Seguin

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Flashback to January 2013 when I wasn't exactly loved in Edmonton. Not my attention as I wrote this article for THW:
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The Case For Trading Nail Yakupov:
http://thehockeywriters.com/the-case...-nail-yakupov/

Edmonton Journal's Dave Staples wrote a rebuttal in the paper (the online version wasn't quite as a homer post as the print copy which a friend got for me where he really tried to torch me):
Trade Nail Yakupov? Not if you want to win a Stanley Cup.
http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/ho...-a-stanley-cup
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Has Katz's son been reached for comment?
"DAAAAAAAD!!! Where are my Hall and Yakupov action figures?"


-- "Oh, I, uh, sold them in the garage sale. After I got you the Connor one last year, I didn't think you needed those old ones anymore."


"But Daaaaaad, they were my favourites. They were part of a set. You broke my set!"
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Edmonton Journal's Dave Staples wrote a rebuttal in the paper (the online version wasn't quite as a homer post as the print copy which a friend got for me where he really tried to torch me):
Trade Nail Yakupov? Not if you want to win a Stanley Cup.
http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/ho...-a-stanley-cup
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4. The Oilers don’t have any glaring needs.

With Schultz, Ladi Smid and Jeff Petry, the Oilers have three outstanding-to-solid young d-men to build around, so the notion of trading for expensive Dion Phaneuf or less proven Jake Gardiner isn’t enticing. In Montreal, P.K. Subban is going to have a large price tag, too, and I know this will mark me as an Oilers fan, but I don’t love Subban’s game more than Petry’s game...
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Honestly the Oilers need to take away the trading rights on Chia's computer account.

The Reinhart trade was breathtakingly bad

The Hall for Larsson trade isn't a great trade value wise.

Now Yak for a conditional third and a prospect that is so far from the NHL that he's already practicing his "I was a NHL prospect, at his local beer league game"

The only thing he's done well is draft first overall and pick McMenis, which frankly I could have done for a 1/4 of the salary.

Make no mistake, this team looks to be worse then last year especially offensively.
you are right, not sure how on Earth we can replace a combined 35 goals from Hall and Yakupov...oh right, Lucic, Versteeg, a healthy McDavid should do it

and people are crapping on Chiarelli like he's dismantling a winning team....
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you are right, not sure how on Earth we can replace a combined 35 goals from Hall and Yakupov...oh right, Lucic, Versteeg, a healthy McDavid should do it

and people are crapping on Chiarelli like he's dismantling a winning team....
Did you seriously mention bottom-of-the-barrel PTO Kris Versteeg as a possible offensive replacement for two first-overall picks? Granted, one of them looks to be a potential bust, but still... that's ridiculous.
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Old 10-07-2016, 10:06 PM   #138
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Did you seriously mention bottom-of-the-barrel PTO Kris Versteeg as a possible offensive replacement for two first-overall picks? Granted, one of them looks to be a potential bust, but still... that's ridiculous.
you do know Versteeg almost had twice as many goals as Yakupov did last year right?
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Old 10-07-2016, 10:10 PM   #139
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Yes. Kris Versteeg is a better player than Nail Yakupov.
In other news Nic Cage is a better actor than Steve Segal.
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you do know Versteeg almost had twice as many goals as Yakupov did last year right?
He also played twice as many minutes
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