[Rumour] McKenzie: Gaudreau & Flames are closing gap, but it's still a considerable gap.

[MikeMc]

Originally Posted by JerryUnderscore

What percentage of Gaudreau's points was Hudler in on? I'd love to see some statistics that show Hudler was the driving force on that line.



You don't think Gaudreau, Monahan and a plug could combine for 35 points?

I'm assuming you mean above and beyond what Gaudreau and Monahan put up last year. That's 10 points each (assuming an even split). If Shinkaruk, Chiasson, Ferland, etc can't put up 15-20 points this year on the first line something is seriously wrong with all of them.

And you're suggesting that a 23 year old LW and 22 centre won't progress... at all? If Gaudreau even stays the same at home but figures out how to play better on the road (something many people have already suggested should have simply by having more productive 2nd and 3rd lines), he should pick up those point.

So... yeah, I think the first line is almost guaranteed to absorb Hudler's 35 points from last year.



I don't... this makes no sense. Trouba is supposedly worried about his ice time and not having the opportunity to enough minutes because of a glut of Right shot defence. Has Winnipeg asked him to play LD?

Comparatively, Gaudreau is already getting first line minutes. There's nothing for him to worry about. He's never shown a single concern in his career about who he's playing with.

Remember his time in BC? He had Bill Arnold and Kevin Hayes on his line and he made them look good.




Do you have to expect that? I would be especially surprised to see Backlund getting serious PP time. He's always been way better defensively. I'd expect him to get PK time.

An argument could be made for Bennett/Brouwer to be on the second unit, but considering how the power play was absolute rubbish last year (and Gaudreau scored only 6 PPGs), I'm completely okay with that.



You're suggesting that he scored so many goals because Hartley used him as an offensive goal scorer and that's... a bad thing?

It's been pointed out by others that the reason last year went so poorly for the team is a combination of horrible goaltending and a defensive system that tried to collapse towards the net and block shots.

Gulutzan is not some defensive specialist coach like Darryl Sutter. He's not going to try to force the team to win games 1-0. He will continue to put our primary goal scores in a position to score goals.



Let me get this straight. Your prediction for Gaudreau this year is that he will end up somewhere in the 65 point range?



I understand why the Flames' initial ask was $6.4M. I also understand why Gaudreau's initial ask was $8M+. But neither of these were every supposed to be realistic offers. They're starting points to get us, ultimately, to where we will end up: $7.25-ish.

Make longer posts please.

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[JerryUnderscore]

Originally Posted by MikeMc

Make longer posts please.

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There was a lot to respond to.

Sent from my computer using my keyboard.

[Rhettzky]

I'm hearing that he might not sign today.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Rhettzky

I'm hearing that he might not sign today.

I was saving that post until 11:55pm.

[BloodFetish]

Originally Posted by Demaeon

Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.

To Johnny...

If you can't make your mind up,
We'll never get started.
And I don't wanna wind up
Being parted, broken-hearted.
So if you really love us,
Say yes (to $6.749m/8 years)

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by JerryUnderscore

There was a lot to respond to.

Sent from my computer using my keyboard.

Ah Jerry, you haven't been around here in a while, but most of us have learned to just not bother responding to Ricardodw's insane rants. It doesn't go anywhere productive.

[IceMan]

Ok Johnny, enough is enough. It's time to sign now. CP is getting restless.

[PugnaciousIntern]

Originally Posted by IceMan

Ok Johnny, enough is enough. It's time to sign now. CP is getting restless.

Yes, we have now become restless. As opposed to last week

[sureLoss]

News Update

Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
McKenzie: Last few days, #Flames' brass was meeting fc-2-fc w/ Gaudreau/Gross. "They've closed the gap, but it's still a considerable gap."

[FanIn80]

Wtfux.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

News Update

Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
McKenzie: Last few days, #Flames' brass was meeting fc-2-fc w/ Gaudreau/Gross. "They've closed the gap, but it's still a considerable gap."

"Oh look, sureLoss posted"

blah blah blah-bad news.

[JurassicTunga12]

Alright, get your pitchforks out everyone.

[sureLoss]

Gap is Johnny wants king sized Skittle bags. Flames offering fun sized/Halloween sized only.

[TheScorpion]

They've closed the gap, but there's still a considerable gap?

Wut?

[agulati]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Gap is Johnny wants king sized Skittle bags. Flames offering fun sized/Halloween sized only.

You mean Gaudreau sized is being offered?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

They've closed the gap, but there's still a considerable gap?

Wut?

Meaning some concessions were made by one or both parties, but there is still a large difference in where each side stands.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

News Update

Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
McKenzie: Last few days, #Flames' brass was meeting fc-2-fc w/ Gaudreau/Gross. "They've closed the gap, but it's still a considerable gap."

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

They've closed the gap, but there's still a considerable gap?

Wut?

Like when your mom clo......ah forget it.

[pylon]

LOL, well that's the last time I ever post 'source' info. Don't I look like a jackass.

He signs when he signs I guess. I'm done obsessing over it. Clearly even the people 'in the know' aren't really in the know.

[Manhattanboy]

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