10-05-2016, 06:29 PM
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#261
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Johnny is probably being advised to stay home until he's signed. There would be HUGE pressure on him socially to sign if he was in Calgary.
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10-05-2016, 06:30 PM
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#262
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Locke
That couldnt possibly have really happened? I demand a source.
If a weather reporter got smoked with a Stop sign it should be front-page news!
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It's from a tv show. I don't remember the name of it, but the red headed gay guy from Modern Family was on it before Modern Family. It wasn't very good and was cancelled relatively quickly.
EDIT. This was it: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0484082/
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10-05-2016, 06:31 PM
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#263
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Go away.
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We've had our differences in some threads. But if you and gaudreauvertime are both the same poster, the Andy Kaufman fan in me applauds your effort.
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10-05-2016, 06:44 PM
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#264
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Why does everyone always forget about the potassium benzoate?
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Didn't forget. Just didn't feel like going long.
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10-05-2016, 06:56 PM
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#265
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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The Debbie Downer in me can't help bu think that if both sides expected an imminent deal, then they would have just told JG to pack his things and get to Calgary so that they could do the presser and get him dressed for practice ASAP.
The fact they are doing it in Johnny's court isn't necessarily a bad thing. They have to negotiate somewhere, but if it was in Calgary, that would be a good sign IMO. As long as it's not because the JG side said they are going to the KHL or demanding a trade, so Brad had to rush over there to talk to him in person. That last part is just me being a Francis though.
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10-05-2016, 06:56 PM
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#266
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#1 Goaltender
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Just to clarify for my information. If Johnny doesn't agree to a contract no other team can try to sign him indefinitely? And the only other option other than signing with the Flames is for the Flames to trade him? So he could potentially sit for years?
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10-05-2016, 06:58 PM
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan
Just to clarify for my information. If Johnny doesn't agree to a contract no other team can try to sign him indefinitely? And the only other option other than signing with the Flames is for the Flames to trade him? So he could potentially sit for years?
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He'd just practice with a no-contract jersey on
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10-05-2016, 06:59 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan
Just to clarify for my information. If Johnny doesn't agree to a contract no other team can try to sign him indefinitely? And the only other option other than signing with the Flames is for the Flames to trade him? So he could potentially sit for years?
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Correct.
He needs another professional season playing hockey before he can receive an offer sheet.
Gaudreau can negotiate exclusively with the Flames. Should he choose not to sign he will have to wait until he is 27 for his UFA status to kick in before negotiating with other teams on the open market.
That's how I understand it.
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10-05-2016, 07:03 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by iggy_oi
He is not under contract and the flames are playing hard ball(both sides are) what leverage would brad have to ask Johnny to fly out on his own dime? I don't think it's a matter of brad blinking at all. These types of things are normal and it could just as easily be argued that brad told Johnny and a his agent that he will fly out to discuss things out of good will rather than have Johnny fly all the way back to Calgary only to be told the flames aren't moving on their offer. I would look at it differently if Johnny flew out to Calgary when he doesn't have to, and would show his hand a little as far as how seriously the flames should consider the threat of him holding out past the start of the season.
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The more I think about it the more it makes sense for Tre to go there. There's no way that Gross and Johnny are both at the negotiating table for the most part. Agents don't want the player to actually see the negotiation, IMO. There's too much of a relationship between a GM and a player and it could skew things. But he needs Johnny to be close so that he can sign assuming the deal is made.
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10-05-2016, 07:21 PM
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#270
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Can someone clarify. I'll start by saying I think it is highly unlikely he sits but for arguements sake lets say he did. Would sitting a year count as a pro season even if he doesn't play? As far as I understand he needs 3 pro seasons before he could be offer sheeted. So would sitting one season count and he could be offer sheeted next year or would he actually have to play?
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10-05-2016, 07:24 PM
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#271
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Hackey
Can someone clarify. I'll start by saying I think it is highly unlikely he sits but for arguements sake lets say he did. Would sitting a year count as a pro season even if he doesn't play? As far as I understand he needs 3 pro seasons before he could be offer sheeted. So would sitting one season count and he could be offer sheeted next year or would he actually have to play?
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He'd have to play. Missing the entire season would change nothing.
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10-05-2016, 08:18 PM
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#272
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In the Sin Bin
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I really thought today was going to be the day. I wonder if maybe a deal got done and they are just waiting to announce tomorrow? And then Johnny plays tomorrow night? And we all live happily ever after.
I don't want Treliving to leave NY without a signed contract.
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10-05-2016, 08:30 PM
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#273
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Locke
That couldnt possibly have really happened? I demand a source.
If a weather reporter got smoked with a Stop sign it should be front-page news!
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It was from a short lived sitcom, "The Class" from about a decade ago. It starred Lizzy Caplan & Jon Bernthal, it is a shame it never lasted longer.
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10-05-2016, 08:32 PM
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#274
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
I really thought today was going to be today.
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And it was!
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10-05-2016, 08:32 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
I really thought today was going to be today...
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So, what's the problem?
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10-05-2016, 08:35 PM
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#276
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damn onions
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Treliving didn't fly to New York so they could continue to stare at each other in a silent stalemate.
This will get done in the next few days, so let's all remain calm here..
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10-05-2016, 08:35 PM
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#277
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
And it was!
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Damn, I had today is going to be tomorrow on my ticket. So close. 
(Terrible joke but you beat me to it, so I had to come up with something)
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10-05-2016, 08:41 PM
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#278
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
And it was!
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That was pretty prophetic of me . . .
I think tomorrow will be Thursday. Book it.
Call me'now for ya'free readin'
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10-05-2016, 08:53 PM
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#279
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#1 Goaltender
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Would it be fun to speculate what Johnny would fetch in a trade or am I just looking to get punched in the face?
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10-05-2016, 08:53 PM
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#280
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 161 St. - Yankee Stadium
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Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan
Would it be fun to speculate what Johnny would fetch in a trade or am I just looking to get punched in the face?
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The latter.
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