Report: Kim Kardashian held at gunpoint in hotel room

[CaptainCrunch]

Its been a bad day for celebrities. I mean first this Kim thing, and then I read about poor Lindsay getting her finger cut off in a boating accident.

If you'll excuse me I need to lie down and listen to some coldplay of a while. I've started a gofundme page so that you can all help me in getting over this horrific day.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Ok I feel like everyone is literally using the same argument but isn't reading anything I post. Irregardless of how you feel about the logic of the phrase, it is a perfectly cromulent saying.

Again, if you think it doesn't make sense "logically" then how do you use phrases like "head over heels", "barking up the wrong tree", "penny for your thoughts".

So everytime someone says "barking up the wrong tree" do you say "nuh uh, you weren't actually barking, that makes no sense". No of course not, that would be silly.

God I hate Kim Kardashina. Look at what she made me do! Arguing on the internet about proper phrasing.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Ok I feel like everyone is literally using the same argument but isn't reading anything I post. Irregardless of how you feel about the logic of the phrase, it is a perfectly cromulent saying.

Again, if you think it doesn't make sense "logically" then how do you use phrases like "head over heels", "barking up the wrong tree", "penny for your thoughts".

So everytime someone says "barking up the wrong tree" do you say "nuh uh, you weren't actually barking, that makes no sense". No of course not, that would be silly.

God I hate Kim Kardashina. Look at what she made me do! Arguing on the internet about proper phrasing.

I have always assumed the statement was couldn't care less which people kept screwing up and slowly it became could care less. Thus its the same as people using literally wrong or say a Mute point if that ever got added to the dictionary.

If in fact the phase has always been could care less then like barking up the wrong tree or head over heels would be an idiom and be correct.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

When I saw this thread was 4 pages long I was very relieved to see it was because of a more important debate.

'Could care less' is the same amount of wrong as 'Mind bottling' (perhaps even more wrong as at least some people use mind bottling due to a bad movie reference) and is a much more important issue in this world than Kim Kardashian mindlessly having jewelry stolen in Paris. It's a bane to society and almost as bad as the recent trend of everyone saying literally improperly.

Oh you literally peed your pants laughing? Should probably go change.

Edit: also I believe the more correct descriptor would be Rickyism and not Idiom.

[Galakanokis]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Ok I feel like everyone is literally using the same argument but isn't reading anything I post. Irregardless of how you feel about the logic of the phrase, it is a perfectly cromulent saying.

Again, if you think it doesn't make sense "logically" then how do you use phrases like "head over heels", "barking up the wrong tree", "penny for your thoughts".

So everytime someone says "barking up the wrong tree" do you say "nuh uh, you weren't actually barking, that makes no sense". No of course not, that would be silly.

God I hate Kim Kardashina. Look at what she made me do! Arguing on the internet about proper phrasing.

Thanked for people not actually reading your post.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

As to Cecil's point, would you consider "head under heels", "barking down the wrong tree", "dime for your thoughts" acceptable sayings? Because that's more accurately representative of the difference between "couldn't care less" and "could care less".

[Swift]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

This thread about a Kardashian in distress has turned into a shouting match over grammar in idioms.

Ah, the internet.

Thread about idiots turns into thread about idioms.

[troutman]

People used to say "I don't give a care". Not so much now.

https://www.englishforums.com/Englis...rwpmc/post.htm

"Care" is a non-countable noun; thus, "a care" is grammatically incorrect.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Whether it's could care less or couldn't care less, what I can tell from this thread is almost no one gives a #### that Kim K was robbed.

[VladtheImpaler]

Is it wrong to be kind of disappointed that no Kardashians were lost?

[Slanter]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Ok I feel like everyone is literally using the same argument but isn't reading anything I post. Irregardless of how you feel about the logic of the phrase, it is a perfectly cromulent saying.

Again, if you think it doesn't make sense "logically" then how do you use phrases like "head over heels", "barking up the wrong tree", "penny for your thoughts".

So everytime someone says "barking up the wrong tree" do you say "nuh uh, you weren't actually barking, that makes no sense". No of course not, that would be silly.

God I hate Kim Kardashina. Look at what she made me do! Arguing on the internet about proper phrasing.

Nobody wants to jump on this guy for using the word "irregardless" in a rant about misused phrases?

[CroFlames]

I love screwing up well known sayings on purpose in front of my wife just to piss her off.

Some of her favorites: Irregardless & expresso. Man she goes nuts and I love it.

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by Slanter

Nobody wants to jump on this guy for using the word "irregardless" in a rant about misused phrases?

I'm upset that he put his periods on the wrong side of his quotation marks. ��

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Slanter

Nobody wants to jump on this guy for using the word "irregardless" in a rant about misused phrases?

[The Yen Man]

Darn, I was expecting her to be taken, and then Kanye would have needed to employ a person with a specific set of skills to get her back.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by Cameron Swift

Thread about idiots turns into thread about idioms.

Close, but not actually the case. Idioms are (as Archer teaches us) colloquial metaphors - where the meaning is not apparent in the language, such as "kicked the bucket" or my personal favourite Canadian idiom (which I didn't know was Canadian until I used it in front of a group of Americans and New Zealanders) "****ing the dog."

Could vs. Couldn't care less is an argument of laziness vs. pedantry.

[polak]

Couldn't care less is why we have Shooting Sprees.

But reading "could care less" is also why we have shooting sprees.

[sun]

Thread got Cecil'd big time.

[Mike F]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

They are idioms, they don't have to make perfect sense. It is totally acceptable.

I assume that's a typo, and that you meant:

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

They are idiots, they don't have to make perfect sense. It is totally acceptable to them.

[nfotiu]

But somehow everyone thinks it is acceptable to say take a crap. Because that is just gross to take one when you should be giving one. And when you say you don't give a crap, it has nothing to do with the words that make up the sentence.