[Rumour] UPD: Friedman: Thinks a deal will get done between Gaudreau and the Flames in the next week

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

The fact that you would compare bargaining for a car (a one and done purchase) vs negotiations with a star player (essentially a strategic business partner) tells me all I need to know about your negotiation skills/experience. Never mind that I have led paid seminars teaching fortune 500 executives how to negotiate.

Former executives of former Fortune 500 companies?

[mennoknight]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

And my wife taught math to kids in elementary school for 30 years, but she still can't do math in her head or on paper.....so what?

As we used to say in Teacher's College: Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, teach gym.

[Benched]

you went to the School of Rock?

[TheoFleury]

Originally Posted by Buff

You do realize that Craig Button hasn't been the GM for many many years, do you?

The other team would have all the leverage. Why would they trade their signed and happy version of Gaudreau for an unsigned Gaudreau? It makes no sense.

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

10.5" flaccid

It must be pencil thin.

[MarkGio]

Gaudreau has no leverage. Trevy should continue this stance until March if need be. Every day Gaudreau is not on the ice or getting paid, his agent is closer to being fired or at least closer to not having his contract renewed

[TheoFleury]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Gaudreau has no leverage. Trevy should continue this stance until March if need be. Every day Gaudreau is not on the ice or getting paid, his agent is closer to being fired or at least closer to not having his contract renewed

That's bad advice if Treliving values his job. Do you realize the pressure he would be under if Gaudreau missed the whole season and the Flames were mired in another bottom 5 disaster?

[polak]

Originally Posted by TheoFleury

That's bad advice if Treliving values his job. Do you realize the pressure he would be under if Gaudreau missed the whole season and the Flames were mired in another bottom 5 finish?

and then demanded a trade?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Reaper

It must be pencil thin.

It's the colour, strength, and virility of a tape worm.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by TheoFleury

That's bad advice if Treliving values his job. Do you realize the pressure he would be under if Gaudreau missed the whole season and the Flames were mired in another bottom 5 disaster?

This is all premised on the expectation that without Gaudreau in the lineup, the Flames experience a mitigated disaster on ice, and I don't believe that is at all certain.

By the same token, do you realize the pressure Gaudreau would be under if he missed the whole season and the Flames were a playoff team?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by jayswin

I think you're incorrect on the jerseys. Winning teams bring sell out crowds with or without stars, for sure, but its not as simple as every fan owns one jersey and if it's not Gaudreau it's someone else...

Of course it is not that simple, but do you honestly think that the impact of a single player in this market is palpable enough to dramatically effect merchandise revenue for the team? I am not convinced.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Of course it is not that simple, but do you honestly think that the impact of a single player in this market is palpable enough to dramatically effect merchandise revenue for the team? I am not convinced.

I guess it depends how you define dramatic. Have thousands upon thousands of Flames fans already gone out and bought Gaudreau jerseys because of his special abilities? Yes.

Did most of those fans already have Flames jerseys? Yes. Would they have bought a different jersey if not Gaudreau? Not sure, so I guess that's the where the truth lies.

I tend to believe he has had a dramatic effect on jersey sales, but admittedly have no numbers to back it up.

[theslymonkey]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

The fact that you would compare bargaining for a car (a one and done purchase) vs negotiations with a star player (essentially a strategic business partner) tells me all I need to know about your negotiation skills/experience. Never mind that I have led paid seminars teaching fortune 500 executives how to negotiate.

[Lord Carnage]

Originally Posted by jayswin

I guess it depends how you define dramatic. Have thousands upon thousands of Flames fans already gone out and bought Gaudreau jerseys because of his special abilities? Yes.

Did most of those fans already have Flames jerseys? Yes. Would they have bought a different jersey if not Gaudreau? Not sure, so I guess that's the where the truth lies.

I tend to believe he has had a dramatic effect on jersey sales, but admittedly have no numbers to back it up.

Maybe me but, I'm pretty sure there are NOT thousands upon thousands of Gaudreau jerseys out there. Hundreds? Definitely. Over one thousand? Probable, sure, but that's there things are starting to get murky. Thousands upon thousands of just Gaudreau? I find that difficult to believe...

By far the majority of jerseys I see out there are nameless - just a jersey - so I really don't think Gaudreau would have that significant an effect on the market for Flames merchandise.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by mennoknight

As we used to say in Teacher's College: Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, teach gym.

Someone watched The Goldbergs this week.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

This is all premised on the expectation that without Gaudreau in the lineup, the Flames experience a mitigated disaster on ice, and I don't believe that is at all certain.

By the same token, do you realize the pressure Gaudreau would be under if he missed the whole season and the Flames were a playoff team?

Let's be somewhat realistic here. The Flames can't even ice an NHL calibre top line without Guadreau. The season starts and ends with him playing at a high level and him missing games, however many that may be is not going to help that situation. How is it you feel the team can not just compete but be a playoff team without one of its only two, proven true top level scorers?

This team is in big trouble if it doesn't have its top offensive threat in the lineup for any length of time. Revisit this argument in a year or two when Bennett/Tkachuk have had time to develop.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Let's be somewhat realistic here. The Flames can't even ice an NHL calibre top line without Guadreau. The season starts and ends with him playing at a high level and him missing games, however many that may be is not going to help that situation. How is it you feel the team can not just compete but be a playoff team without one of its only two, proven true top level scorers?

Bennett-Monahan-Brouwer

[polak]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Bennett-Monahan-Brouwer

Not even close. Neither Bennett and Brouwer are 1st liners.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Bennett-Monahan-Brouwer

I'm sure that's going to get it done against the heavyweights of the western conference . Better yet, your plan leaves a second line of what? A rookie and two perennial 40 point scorers? That offensive group would be one of the worst in the league.

Like it or not the pressure is squarely on BT once the puck drops. His hand picked coach will have to deal with his mess right out of the gates and that's really unfair to the guy.

[Toonage]

Gaudreau-Monahan-Hudler got it done against the heavyweights and the line I presented is bigger, equally as fast, grittier & can score.

I answered the challenge. I'll take my prize money now!