08-29-2016, 03:24 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DiracSpike
Oppressed is a strong word. Black people were oppressed in the USA, they're not anymore.
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08-29-2016, 03:36 PM
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#642
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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The rarest of rare NFL trades: Not one, but two punters involved in a trade
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Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 49m49 minutes ago
Browns trade P Andy Lee and a 2017 seventh-round pick to the Panthers in exchange for P Kasey Redfern and a 2018 fourth-round pick.
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08-29-2016, 04:39 PM
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#643
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: BELTLINE
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
Good to know that whole race relations thing has been resolved. I'm sure that must be a huge relief. Someone should put out a memo.
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Classic sarcastic response, but I never said race relations have been resolved. Although I do think moving away from inflammatory language like the word oppressed would go a long way to de-escalating the Us vs Them narrative occurring in the States.
Anyways I'm cheering for Kap to figure it out again, it was a lot of fun watching him shred GB a few seasons in a row. If he gets cut from the Niners it'll be the most meteoric rise and fall of any QB I can remember.
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08-29-2016, 06:16 PM
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#644
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Originally Posted by DiracSpike
Anyways I'm cheering for Kap to figure it out again, it was a lot of fun watching him shred GB a few seasons in a row. If he gets cut from the Niners it'll be the most meteoric rise and fall of any QB I can remember.
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Teeeeebow
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08-29-2016, 07:02 PM
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#645
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DiracSpike
Classic sarcastic response, but I never said race relations have been resolved. Although I do think moving away from inflammatory language like the word oppressed would go a long way to de-escalating the Us vs Them narrative occurring in the States.
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Yeah, it was sarcastic because it was a pretty inane reply.
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Originally Posted by DiracSpike
Oppressed is a strong word. Black people were oppressed in the USA, they're not anymore. Certainly poverty is a tough barrier and cycle to overcome, but I don't see how that's any different than poor Hispanics, or Natives, or Whites.
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They're not anymore?
I agree that the "us versus them" isn't helpful but neither is telling one side that there isn't an issue anymore.
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08-29-2016, 08:30 PM
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#646
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
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Originally Posted by ResAlien
Teeeeebow
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haha I thought about that too, it's comparable but teams were actually scared of Kap. He OWNED Green Bay, tebow jesus'd his way to a bunch of fluke wins. Watching the guy lately he can't even make the most fundamental reads or throws. Just crazy.
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08-29-2016, 08:48 PM
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#647
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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A response from one black man to Kaepernicks decision (no idea who this guy is, just saw it posted elsewhere)
Yikes.
http://www.allenbwest.com/allen/mess...lin-kaepernick
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08-29-2016, 08:54 PM
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#648
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Apartment 5A
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Tampa Bay's game vs Washington is being moved to Wednesday because of incoming weather, league source tells ESPN.
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08-29-2016, 10:42 PM
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#650
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Franchise Player
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Nm.
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08-30-2016, 12:45 AM
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#651
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DiracSpike
Oppressed is a strong word. Black people were oppressed in the USA, they're not anymore. Certainly poverty is a tough barrier and cycle to overcome, but I don't see how that's any different than poor Hispanics, or Natives, or Whites.
And good for him, that's a good cause. Hopefully he's motivated himself and others in the NFL to do more.
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Bahahahaahaha, you're so lucky this is tucked away in the NFL thread where most people don't go. Wow.
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08-30-2016, 03:05 AM
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#652
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: BELTLINE
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Originally Posted by jayswin
Bahahahaahaha, you're so lucky this is tucked away in the NFL thread where most people don't go. Wow.
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Great contribution.
I just don't see blacks matching the dictionary definition term of "oppressed" in America today. That's a severe term that I file more for Jim Crow era blacks, Apartheid South Africa, or Jews in Nazi Europe just to name a few. Furthermore, I believe using such severe language tends to just inflame tensions instead of making things better.
Now if you want to argue with either of those two points that's fine, but instead you took the bobblehead position of pretending I said there were no issues whatsoever. Neither of you have actually engaged me on my position. I was going to let it go since no one wants to read this debate in an NFL thread but I've noticed this as a trend on CP where people see what they want to see in certain positions and boil that argument down to an easily attackable straw man. Again, I NEVER SAID RACE RELATIONS IN THE USA ARE PERFECT.
And you're right, I am lucky this is tucked away because odds are it would have garnered probably a page and a half of posts like yours, with the usual "hahas", " oh yeah everything is great in the USA, you should tell someone, glad you solved it, okie dokie then" and some "Wow"s thrown in for good measure. There could have been a possible benefit there in that maybe you'd see how unoriginal and boring your garbage post is then but somehow I doubt it.
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08-30-2016, 09:23 AM
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#653
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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No, you said black people in the USA aren't oppressed anymore then cherry pick a definition to make you feel good about your stance.
The "dictionary definition" of "oppression" says: prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control. That's the first thing that comes up with Google; MW & OED are similar. I'm not sure where you got your dictionary definition.
You apparently don't agree. You have limited your interpretation - why?
People are being shot for having a different skin colour. Police are being shot because they are police. African Americans ARE feeling oppressed, just because they aren't segregated doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Police ARE being targeted because some people feel they are being oppressed because of race. It IS bad. Your response sounds like you are denying that there is a problem. And with all that has happened in the past couple of years, denying that there is a problem will lead to scorn being heaped upon you.
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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08-30-2016, 10:11 AM
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#654
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
I am a 49ers fan. I wasn't a Kaep fan but I respect him more now that he has taken this stance. This is the most leadership he has shown. When Harbaugh ran the team, he was the leader. Kaepernick was always too quiet and never had the charisma people expect of an alpha QB. Kaepernick is a decent QB in the right situation but he will never be a rah-rah, rally the troops, dissect a secondary guy.
But yeah, he is pretty much done in SF. The team will look for a way to release him with the least mess possible. They are already leaking stories to national press to make the cut easier (which is how the owners work - undermine with leaks to make them look justified later. The Yorks are BAD owners).
I'm resigned to the fact that the team I cheered for since "The Catch" will be bad so long as they are owned by the Yorks. I had some hope when Jed took over but he is little better than his parents.
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I am in 100% agreement with your take on Kaep and the 49ers. Tough to see that team driven into the ground with the Yorks. I always thought Kaepernick was a "tools not the toolbox" kind of guy, but I must admit I thought his statements to the media were really well thought out and I respect him for what he is saying. Selfishly, I just wish he could throw the damn ball more accurately!
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08-30-2016, 01:11 PM
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#655
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Lifetime In Suspension
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So much for my prediction of the Vikings winning their division. Teddy B just went down in practice, non contact knee injury, players freaking out, Vikings end practice. Sucks, I like that kid.
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08-30-2016, 01:12 PM
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#656
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Sounds like Teddy Bridgewater just suffered a bad injury in practice - the tweets coming out are saying "sounds serious" and "doesn't look good"
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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08-30-2016, 01:12 PM
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#657
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Franchise Player
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Sounds like a Teddy Bridgewater had a pretty serious injury, non contact, today at practice. Details aren't out but it seems like it might be season ending.
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08-30-2016, 01:13 PM
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#658
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Is "Bridgewater" the NFL thread version of Fata?
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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08-30-2016, 01:15 PM
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#659
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Bridgewater's numbers were pretty much bang average last year, so it shouldn't be too hard to replace him. Problem is there's no average QBs available. Nick Foles probably wishes he sat out another couple weeks, probably walks right in and starts in Minny.
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08-30-2016, 01:20 PM
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#660
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Bridgewater's numbers were pretty much bang average last year, so it shouldn't be too hard to replace him. Problem is there's no average QBs available. Nick Foles probably wishes he sat out another couple weeks, probably walks right in and starts in Minny.
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Josh McCown isn't too bad. I would take him over Sanchez.
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