Canada Post likely will be locked out/on strike - July 2

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Swarly

Union should be doing what its members want, or at least what the majority wants. If they gave strike notice then there must have been a strike vote or a rejection of the current proposal, no? with a majority wishing to strike at a time when everyone is suffering in a bad economy, good idea, you'll get tons of sympathy.

It's the sense of entitlement that gets many members voting that way. For whatever reason some (not all) don't seem to understand the harsh realities of a bad economy and what most people will do to survive. Voting to strike in a bad economy won't get you any sympathy from families or single people who are unemployed and looking for a job.

Losing wages, benefits and other negotiated items from the past seems to be the sword they are willing to die on.

The people I feel sorry for are the members who didn't vote to strike.

Lastly, when you're striking against a major corporation, who has more resourses to outlast the other? It's certaintly not the employee.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

It's almost like people don't want to make less money... This is incredibly shocking and we should turn our noses up at how entitled they are! Greedy union scum. And in this economic climate? How dare they want to be able to afford their mortgage payment! The nerve of some people.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

It's almost like people don't want to make less money... This is incredibly shocking and we should turn our noses up at how entitled they are! Greedy union scum. And in this economic climate? How dare they want to be able to afford their mortgage payment.The nerve of some people.

In this economy you should be grateful for the job you have and the wages you earn. I'm sure the countless Albertans who are out of a job would take the offer Canada Post is offering to it's membership. The nerve of the unemployed willing to do anything to pay the bills and keep a roof over their heads!

[Zarley]

Privatize this company, please.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Zarley

Privatize this company, please.

The Postal union should buy the corporation.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Dion

In this economy you should be grateful for the job you have and the wages you earn. I'm sure the countless Albertans who are out of a job would take the offer Canada Post is offering to it's membership. The nerve of the unemployed willing to do anything to pay the bills and keep a roof over their heads!

You do realize that many people have mortgages and debts? Some people are literally going to be driven out of their house and you say "just be thankful you have a job". Do you not realize how callous that sounds? Why even say anything? It doesn't affect you either way.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

It's like some people are happy that some of their fellow Canadians are very possibly going to get hurt financially and it's all good cuz "#### unions". It's like they're rooting for people to suffer. Might as well be anyway.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

You do realize that many people have mortgages and debts? Some people are literally going to be driven out of their house and you say "just be thankful you have a job". Do you not realize how callous that sounds? Why even say anything? It doesn't affect you either way.

Many people with mortgages and debts are on the unemployment line right now franticly looking for any kind of work that will help pay their bills. Yet in this economic climate the union brass thinks it's a good decision to go on strike. I don't get it.

Strike pay isn't going to cover lost wages creating a greater financial hardship for members. How is that going to help them pay their debts should this strike go on for an extended period of time? Explain to me how they are going to recover those lost wages? It most certainly won't come from the union.

You're right! It doesn't affect me but it sure does for members like CP's Hockey. I hope and pray he has the finacial resources to ride out this strike. The union brass doesn't give a fiddlers about poster Hockey and that's a shame.

[OffsideSpecialist]

For me, the biggest sticking point is the pension. Defined benefit pensions for the public service are not sustainable, just as it has been discovered they aren't in private industry. Luckily, public service has the taxpayers to go to for any shortfall.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

It's almost like people don't want to make less money... This is incredibly shocking and we should turn our noses up at how entitled they are! Greedy union scum. And in this economic climate? How dare they want to be able to afford their mortgage payment! The nerve of some people.

Make less money?

Does the offer include pay cuts?

[Hockey]

Originally Posted by Dion

You're right! It doesn't affect me but it sure does for members like CP's Hockey. I hope and pray he has the finacial resources to ride out this strike. The union brass doesn't give a fiddlers about poster Hockey and that's a shame.

I won't lie, I'm pretty scared right now on this whole situation. I'm trying to act like everything will be fine, but deep down I'm just not sure. Me and my wife have had financial troubles before when she was in between jobs. We got help from my parents and now she has a really good job(she hates it though). Now things were going great for us until this strike/lockout news. I've pretty much worked OT everyday this summer to try and get that extra cash and I have been putting some away, but that will all be gone once the first mortgage payment comes out. My only hope right now if this lasts long is my parents help us out.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

It's like some people are happy that some of their fellow Canadians are very possibly going to get hurt financially and it's all good cuz "#### unions". It's like they're rooting for people to suffer. Might as well be anyway.

Are you quite done being an emotional basket case yet?

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Hockey

I won't lie, I'm pretty scared right now on this whole situation. I'm trying to act like everything will be fine, but deep down I'm just not sure. Me and my wife have had financial troubles before when she was in between jobs. We got help from my parents and now she has a really good job(she hates it though). Now things were going great for us until this strike/lockout news. I've pretty much worked OT everyday this summer to try and get that extra cash and I have been putting some away, but that will all be gone once the first mortgage payment comes out. My only hope right now if this lasts long is my parents help us out.

Yeah that sucks. If you haven't looked into Purolator was hiring a lot of people at the start of the strike threat because their business was growing very fast. They may still need more resources now that a strike may actually happen.

[Hockey]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Yeah that sucks. If you haven't looked into Purolator was hiring a lot of people at the start of the strike threat because their business was growing very fast. They may still need more resources now that a strike may actually happen.

Ya I really hope it doesn't come to me having to find a new job. I actually enjoy my job, especially in the summer months. A few of my friends say they could get me a job.

[Slava]

Apparently the two sides are meeting with a mediator this morning, so there could be a faster resolution. I am not sure why you would issue the strike notice if you had already planned to meet with a mediator to try to negotiate a settlement, but its outside my area of expertise to say the least.

[Addick]

Originally Posted by Dion

Many people with mortgages and debts are on the unemployment line right now franticly looking for any kind of work that will help pay their bills. Yet in this economic climate the union brass thinks it's a good decision to go on strike. I don't get it.

One of the things I find funny about capitalism is how it seems like most people, the majority of which naturally are not business-owners, tend to take the side of the owners. It seems employed workers need to be thankful that they have a job as others are unemployed. However, business-owners don't have to be thankful that they have workers as other businesses-owners have, for various reasons, gone tits up.

I'm not saying people are wrong but it feels like so many are naturally inclined to side with those who have financial resources rather than those who are the human resources. It's funny because most people themselves are the latter.

[PepsiFree]

Selfish question: If I mail an important government document today... chances of arriving? Yay? Nay?

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Slava

Apparently the two sides are meeting with a mediator this morning, so there could be a faster resolution. I am not sure why you would issue the strike notice if you had already planned to meet with a mediator to try to negotiate a settlement, but its outside my area of expertise to say the least.

For the same reason why any strike or lockout threat happens: to try and pressure the other side into caving.

[Hockey]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Selfish question: If I mail an important government document today... chances of arriving? Yay? Nay?

Well the plan is rotating strikes so depends where you are mailing it from and when that area goes on strike. However we will probably get locked out before we have a chance at rotating strikes.

[nik-]

I mailed a time sensitive letter to the UK on Wednesday, I assume I'm boned