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Old 07-29-2016, 01:10 PM   #8981
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His comments on Trump's persuasion skills are very perceptive. As a trained hypnotist, I think he offers a good perspective into why Trump is leading the race despite the myriad of reasons he's not qualified for the role. He is one of the few people who have recognized what is happening and it would be foolish to dismiss these insights.
Also, Hitler was good at painting.
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Given your understanding of how to abuse context, I assume you are a Cenk/GlenGreewald/RezaAslan fan?
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Given your understanding of how to abuse context, I assume you are a Cenk/GlenGreewald/RezaAslan fan?
Nope. Not at all. Context?


Would you clarify you're agreement with Adams on people being scared of Trump of what Trump might do even though he hasn't said anything scary?

I'll provide plenty of examples if you like
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Nope. Not at all. Context?


Would you clarify you're agreement with Adams on people being scared of Trump of what Trump might do even though he hasn't said anything scary?

I'll provide plenty of examples if you like
There are many examples of people misquoting Trump or "mis-interpreting" his words. We spend a lot of time discussing that in this very thread.

There are many other examples of people imagining what Trump will do, and then getting angry at him for their imaginings.

This is a distinct phenomenon from the long list of ACTUAL things that are worth complaining about with regards to Trump.
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Do you ever make an intelligent contribution to any discussion here?

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Is it actually the same Scott Adams? Because that would make me sad
It is. If you want to decide for yourself if he's actually misogynist (given that you pretty much can't take any driveby that Psycnet posts seriously; to him basically anyone right of him on the political spectrum is some flavour of bigot), read this and decide for yourself.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/102881506316/im-a-what

I took it as (mediocre) satire, which is what he says it was; presumably Street Pharmacist thinks he was completely earnest, and subsequently lied so as to perform damage control, but you can draw your own conclusions.
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His comments on Trump's persuasion skills are very perceptive. As a trained hypnotist, I think he offers a good perspective into why Trump is leading the race despite the myriad of reasons he's not qualified for the role. He is one of the few people who have recognized what is happening and it would be foolish to dismiss these insights.

Is this real life?
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There are many examples of people misquoting Trump or "mis-interpreting" his words. We spend a lot of time discussing that in this very thread.

There are many other examples of people imagining what Trump will do, and then getting angry at him for their imaginings.

This is a distinct phenomenon from the long list of ACTUAL things that are worth complaining about with regards to Trump.
I find your objections have a distinct pattern. You seek clarity in argument, but with an agenda, a clear contrarian one.

I say that, because in one breath you disparage the awful use of "racism" when the actual words without context do not explicitly state racism. Yet, hilariously, you subtly accuse a Muslim man of misogyny without any proof.


Well done. Perhaps you can say hi to the the three Billy Goats Gruff for me when you see them next trotting across your bridge
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Me too.
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I find your objections have a distinct pattern. You seek clarity in argument, but with an agenda, a clear contrarian one.

I say that, because in one breath you disparage the awful use of "racism" when the actual words without context do not explicitly state racism. Yet, hilariously, you subtly accuse a Muslim man of misogyny without any proof.


Well done. Perhaps you can say hi to the the three Billy Goats Gruff for me when you see them next trotting across your bridge
That was the one that also convinced me he/she is trolling. I won't be responding to anything else he/she posts.
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If I said yes, you wouldn't believe me.
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OH, and BTW, I've heard Gary Johnson speak many times. He's an idiot and isn't qualified to be president. That would be a terrible 3rd party candidate. It's not like we're talking about Ralph Nader here.
I missed this. Why do you think he's an "idiot"? I've heard him talk only a few times, not many, but he sounds at least reasonable, whether you think he's right about any particular point or not.

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I find your objections have a distinct pattern. You seek clarity in argument, but with an agenda, a clear contrarian one.

I say that, because in one breath you disparage the awful use of "racism" when the actual words without context do not explicitly state racism. Yet, hilariously, you subtly accuse a Muslim man of misogyny without any proof.


Well done. Perhaps you can say hi to the the three Billy Goats Gruff for me when you see them next trotting across your bridge
I wasn't subtle at all.

I also said it was bad "optics". Which is an important point: I made no claims other than how it looked.
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I wasn't subtle at all.

I also said it was bad "optics". Which is an important point: I made no claims other than how it looked.
You also said "But probably more than that"
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I wasn't subtle at all.

I also said it was bad "optics". Which is an important point: I made no claims other than how it looked.
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I missed this. Why do you think he's an "idiot"? I've heard him talk only a few times, not many, but he sounds at least reasonable, whether you think he's right about any particular point or not.
Better than Trump or any other Republican candidate this year NOT named Kasich, but not nearly good enough. Libertarian politics is only so useful in America. When pressed on how he would answer complex issues he reverts back to the mantra of extremely limited gov't. How to handle terrorism is just one issue that he fails badly on. The modern world is too complex for Libertarianism. It's too simple and idealistic, and it's too close to anarchy.

The Paul family (Rand and Ron) are the only two "libertarians" I have ever heard who can halfway defend that stance, and even they are hybrids between true libertarians and conservatives.

Sorry, I guess idiot is the wrong word for Johnson. Simpleton would probably be a better word to describe him.
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The modern world is too complex for Libertarianism. It's too simple and idealistic, and it's too close to anarchy.
That's a perfectly valid perspective. I disagree with him on certain topics to varying degrees, and I think you're right about the libertarian view of American foreign policy. But because you disagree with his world view doesn't suggest he's an "idiot". And hedging it to "simpleton" doesn't help; that means the same thing!

This bugs me because it's part of how we get to Trump to begin with; if everyone we disagree with is an unethical, corrupt, uncaring, self-promoting dunce who couldn't run a lemonade stand without bungling it, then when we get someone who actually meets that description or at least approaches it - e.g. Donald Trump - we tend to think it's just par for the course. You've seen some of that in here, from posters like Resurrection.
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I don't know how anyone can take fiscal libertarians seriously to be honest.

EDIT: Beaten by Cali who worded it better.
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