The New American Politics thread

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Makarov

That's a rather sweeping (and convenient) generalization. Changes in (perceived) self interest is just as plausible an expanation for changes in political views as one ages.

My views have not changed substantially since leaving school. By some measures, I may have even moved to the left.

Fair enough, but you do live in Moscow.

I did say "majority" though.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Well banking regulations can be enforced, so it's not out of the realm of possibilities that there's something to get done there. However, passing anything that upsets the financial status quo would never happen, and that's just the reality of the U.S. being a fiercely capitalist society. Socialism is never going to be electable in America.

Also the reality of a global economy and the U.S. being and wanting to remain at the centre of that.

I mean if you want to be at the top of your field in nearly any discipline you go to the U.S., that really means something.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by PostandIn

Sorry to be glib but what do your Apegga dues pay for?

APEGA is not a union and is nowhere near being a union. Their role is not to represent the members in workplace situations or negotiations.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Wait did he say he got tuition free college into the platform? Jesus.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Also the reality of a global economy and the U.S. being and wanting to remain at the centre of that.

I mean if you want to be at the top of your field in nearly any discipline you go to the U.S., that really means something.

It's partly why I'm here and not in Canada. That and my wife finds it too cold in the winter.

[GirlySports]

this is real pie in the sky stuff

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Fair enough, but you do live in Moscow.

I did say "majority" though.

You're right. You did say "majority". I missed that. I might still disagree, but not fair to refer to it as a "sweeping generalization." Sorry.

[White Out 403]

Public schools used to be tuition free. You know, back when America was great?

Or was the great part women back at home raising the kids and "the blacks" had their own schools?

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Wait did he say he got tuition free college into the platform? Jesus.

In reality it will be some form of free community college, not opening the doors to Stanford.

[Frequitude]

Tuition-free post secondary education for families earning <$125k/yr is a pretty damn good policy though I must say. Innovation is the only way to stay ahead and education is the foundation of that.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

this is real pie in the sky stuff

Not really.

I don't have the exact numbers around, but I've heard that if you were to cut the defense budget by just 10% (which is entirely feasible when you realize that they are paying for weapons and machines that are obsolete due to the military industrial complex), you could easily pay for just about everything in Bernie's platform.

I'll have to find that link again...

[GGG]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

I don't have a union job.

How does a government ensure that'll company pays a 33 year old female Engineer the same wage that I make?

Engineers outside of high F make similar wages regardless of gender. Some brackets women make more.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Not really.

I don't have the exact numbers around, but I've heard that if you were to cut the defense budget by just 10% (which is entirely feasible when you realize that they are paying for weapons and machines that are obsolete due to the military industrial complex), you could easily pay for just about everything in Bernie's platform.

I'll have to find that link again...

Well, no, because then you'd suddenly have an unemployment rate skyrocket, a shrinking tax base, and a cascade effect that could kill entire towns and counties at a single blow. This is economics, it's not that simple and definitely not cut and paste.

[GirlySports]

so do all sides hate TTP? Just scrap it.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Yes. Naive in thinking he would ever get a majority of people outside of college ages when everyone is conveniently a revolutionary socialist. Then they get out of school and realize it's more complicated.

Majority of his donations did come from people above the age of 30 though. I would agree he was a bit naive with his policies but I'd say Trump is equally naive if not worse.

[PostandIn]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

APEGA is not a union and is nowhere near being a union. Their role is not to represent the members in workplace situations or negotiations.

They are a professional association as a union is. It's a shame that advocating for members doesn't fall in their mandate. You would think that pay equality would be something they could get behind.

[PostandIn]

Bill Clinton looks hammered.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Well, no, because then you'd suddenly have an unemployment rate skyrocket, a shrinking tax base, and a cascade effect that could kill entire towns and counties at a single blow. This is economics, it's not that simple and definitely not cut and paste.

Using that money to fund education alone could pay for those workers to find new and possibly better jobs. Short term economic distress is acceptable when you're spending your dollars in a wiser manner. Wasting money should never be acceptable, and there is most definitely a LOT of waste in the military budget.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Using that money to fund education alone could pay for those workers to find new and possibly better jobs. Short term economic distress is acceptable when you're spending your dollars in a wiser manner. Wasting money should never be acceptable, and there is most definitely a LOT of waste in the military budget.

But if the United States isn't spending more money on their military than the next 11 countries combined, the terrorists win!!

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Also the reality of a global economy and the U.S. being and wanting to remain at the centre of that.

I mean if you want to be at the top of your field in nearly any discipline you go to the U.S., that really means something.

I don't know. Even if I was the best in my field, it'd take a substantial amount of money for me to move to the U.S.