The New American Politics thread

[the_only_turek_fan]

History will be kind to Bernard Samders.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

OMG...what's with all the tears???

I have feels too. He's an inspiring man with principles and ethics. Let us have this moment with him. Bugger off.

[PostandIn]

Sorry to be glib but what do your Apegga dues pay for?

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by PostandIn

Unions. They've been doing it for decades.

I thought that was pay based solely on length of service.


Also, isn't the whole 73 cents on the "man dollar" kind of bull#### anyway.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

I wish I could be President of the United States.

As an American I thank the flying spaghetti monster in the sky that that isn't possible.

[Frequitude]

I can't get on board with many of his "socialist" (brackets = non disparaging description) ideas but man does Bernie seem like a solid dude who cares.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

I have feels too. He's an inspiring man with principles and ethics. Let us have this moment with him. Bugger off.

I get it, that's how I feel and felt about Obama. I just felt he was more pragmatic.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Frequitude

I can't get on board with many of his "socialist" (brackets = non disparaging description) ideas but man does Bernie seem like a solid dude who cares.

Yeah, I don't think he's disingenuous but he's incredibly naive.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Originally Posted by New Era

As an American I thank the flying spaghetti monster in the sky that that isn't possible.

Wow. The people on this site have really become dicks.

[PostandIn]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

I thought that was pay based solely on length of service.


Also, isn't the whole 73 cents on the "man dollar" kind of bull#### anyway.

My experience is in the building trades unions and there is pay equality. Pay scales are tied to tenure through the apprenticeship system but that is typically a four year process. I can't speak for the public service unions.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Yeah, I don't think he's disingenuous but he's incredibly naive.

Yes. Naive in thinking he would ever get a majority of people outside of college ages when everyone is conveniently a revolutionary socialist. Then they get out of school and realize it's more complicated.

[TheScorpion]

I could eat dinner with Bernie Sanders, mainly because I think we'd eat spaghetti and talk about how great the world is.

With Trump, I'd be in some gaudy living room eating caviar and quiche and I'd feel very uncomfortable listening to his nonsensical rants.

With Hillary, we'd have distilled water for dinner, which I imagine would be rather odd and sterile.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I could eat dinner with Bernie Sanders, mainly because I think we'd eat spaghetti and talk about how great the world is.

With Trump, I'd be in some gaudy living room eating caviar and quiche and I'd feel very uncomfortable listening to his nonsensical rants.

With Hillary, we'd have distilled water for dinner, which I imagine would be rather odd and sterile.

You need to work on your material.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Yes. Naive in thinking he would ever get a majority of people outside of college ages when everyone is conveniently a revolutionary socialist. Then they get out of school and realize it's more complicated.

Or Naive in thinking that he, as president, could ever conceivably get the Senate and the House on side with most of his policies and completely naive as to how he would pay for them and how he plans on "holding wall street accountable".

[GirlySports]

brothers and sisters? he might as well say comrades

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

You need to work on your material.

Indeed.

I believe the tablecloth on Bernie's table would be made of warm, smooth material.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Wow. The people on this site have really become dicks.

Wow. The people on this site have really become thin-skinned humorless dicks.

[calgarygeologist]

Pretty solid speech by Bernie tonight. I think he did a great job of appealing to his supporters while also supporting Clinton.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Or Naive in thinking that he, as president, could ever conceivably get the Senate and the House on side with most of his policies and completely naive as to how he would pay for them and how he plans on "holding wall street accountable".

Well banking regulations can be enforced, so it's not out of the realm of possibilities that there's something to get done there. However, passing anything that upsets the financial status quo would never happen, and that's just the reality of the U.S. being a fiercely capitalist society. Socialism is never going to be electable in America.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Yes. Naive in thinking he would ever get a majority of people outside of college ages when everyone is conveniently a revolutionary socialist. Then they get out of school and realize it's more complicated.

That's a rather sweeping (and convenient) generalization. Changes in (perceived) self interest is just as plausible an expanation for changes in political views as one ages.

My views have not changed substantially since leaving school. By some measures, I may have even moved to the left.